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Elmer Cranton, M.D.
The following was posted by Dr. Elmer Cranton on the Rejuvenation newsgroup, which is for persons taking human growth hormone (HGH) by sub-cutaneous injection, or persons interested in following the discussion. I copy these posts here with Dr. Cranton's permission, because of their value for others to read. -
Ellis Toussier
From Elmer Cranton, M.D.
Re: IGF-1 interpretation
The following must be considered when relying on IGF-1 reports:
1. I have found that laboratories are not always accurate in
testing IGF-1 (sometimes called somatomedin-C). Different methods are used by different labs and the results are not always
comparable. It is a mistake to believe that clinical laboratory
reports are always reliable. IGF-1 is a very specialized test. Unless a lab is large enough to have a substantial volume for that special test, calibration and standardization may not be
accurate. I have found that Smith Kline Lab, LabCorp Lab, and
King James OmegaTech Lab are the most reliable. That doesn't mean
that others may not also be good. But be suspicious of reports if
they don't make sense clinically.
2. IGF-1 is not HGH It is a metabolic breakdown product made
from HGH by the liver. IGF-1 has some hormone activity by itself
but HGH in its pure form has much broader activity. Because HGH
remains in the blood for only a few minutes before attaching to
cell receptors, IGF-1 is used as an easily obtained but partial
indicator. IGF-1 stays in the blood for a day or more. IGF-1
seems to be reliable as a guideline for internal pituitary
production, which is pulsitile over many hours. But people differ
widely in the amount of IGF-1 produced from HGH by injection. I
have seen patients with only mild increases in IGF-1 from
injected HGH respond quite dramatically, out of proportion to
IGF-1 figures.
3. The fact is that1 unit of HGH equals the total daily
pituitary production for a healthy young adult. Therefore one unit of HGH daily is a total replacement dose in old age, regardless of the IGF-1 followup. It is possible that more of the HGH taken by injection (once or at most twice daily) attaches to cells receptors in the body, perhaps more effective ones, and that less goes to the liver to be broken down to IGF-1.
4. I do not do routine follow-up IGF-1 blood tests in my patients for the above reasons. Those measurements have not correlated with replacement doses and vary widely from person to person. There is a wide variation in how much IGF-1 increases from person to person. This seems to have no significance to long-term benefit seen in my clinical practice.
THE DEGREE OF INCREASE IN IGF-1 DOES NOT SEEM TO CORRELATE WITH CLINICAL
BENEFIT. BUT THE LEVEL OF BASELINE IGF-1, BEFORE INJECTIONS BEGIN, AS A PRODUCT
OF SLOW AND CONTINUOUS PITUITARY RELEASE, DOES SEEM TO BE A RELIABLE INDICATOR OF HOW DEFICIENT A PERSON IS TO BEGIN WITH.
5. I know that for myself personally, each unit of HGH by injection raises my IGF-1 by 100 nanograms/milliliter (ng/ml). That is my own consistent measurement if the HGH is real and not counterfeit. Someone else may have a different reading, more or less, with no significance to benefit. I am 67 years old and my baseline IGF-1 without replacement is approximately 100. Every time I get a new lot number of HGH for my patients I take one unit daily for one week and test my IGF-1. It should be about 200. I then take 2 units daily for several days and test again. It should be about 300. That is the only way I can be sure of getting the real thing. Over the past 2 years I have twice received counterfeit HGH, properly labeled and otherwise indistinguishable from the real thing. When I tested my IGF-1, it remained at baseline. I now use Lilly Humatrope in my practice. It has a foreign label but is made in France in the same factory as the USA product. It has consistently been the best in my own testing. IGF-1 measurements will also vary by 10% to 20% from day to day normally. And if a single blood specimen is split into two test tubes and sent to the same laboratory, the results may differ by 20%. The test method is only that accurate. Variations between different labs may be even greater. That fact must be considered in interpretation.
6. HGH replacement therapy means replacement therapy for deficiency with aging. Young people produce plenty of their own and young adults also respond much more briskly to precursors (various amino acids). When reading claims for precursors of any type, it is necessary to know if IGF-1 was deficient to begin with. I would ask to see results for a series of 10 patients over 70 years old (whose IGF-1 will be around 100, plus or minus) and then get before and after readings. They must be 10 sequential patients, not the best 10 responders out of 100, as may be deceptively done. On the average I have only seen about 25% increase of IGF-1 with amino acids in such patients. And to get that increase it is necessary to have an empty stomach, no food for several hours before and 2 hours after taking that product. Food competes with the amino acids for absorption. It is necessary for amino acids to go in fast without interference from other foods to boost HGH release. Young people who do not need HGH and who will not benefit from more will increase much more with the amino acids than old people who really need it.
7. It is well known that HGH releasers (peptides, amino acids, releasing hormone, etc.) lose there effect over time. The pituitary becomes tolerant to them and releases less and less HGH over several months. They work best short term, best in young
people who don't need the benefit and lose their effect with
time.
Elmer M. Cranton, M.D.
> From: "Dale R. & Karen A. Hersh"
> Dear Dr. Cranton,
> Thank you so much for you information, but I do have one
question reference point 5: Do you regularly use rHGH and if you don't why? -- And if you do -- do you cycle it?
I regularly take one to two units of rHGH daily, every day. I've done that for 3 years now with good results. I do not cycle it.
Cycling can save money and get more bang for the buck, but has
reduced overall benefit.
E M Cranton, MD
From: "Elmer Cranton, M.D."
Subject: IGF-1 Laboratory Tests
I did a comparison study of IGF-1 test results by sending split specimens to several large, very reputable reference laboratories.
I took a single blood specimen, I split it into two tubes and sent them to two different laboratories. Theoretically the results should have been the same. There was a correlation but also large differences.
The results follow:
The two test results are on the same, identical blood specimens.
The laboratories are large, highly reputable, fully licensed
labs, approved, and regularly inspected by the government. This
cost me some money as each test cost more than $60. But I felt it
was necessary to correctly interpret my patients' results.
When you see IGF-1 figures used in marketing, you should keep the below results in mind. Any such figures mean nothing unless the standard deviation of the method used is known and enough tests are done to get a statistically significant difference. A you can see, differences of 25% to 50% are within the error of the method and can be quite meaningless.
It is also easy for a marketer to select the most favorable numbers and discard those that do not favor a product. How can one be sure this is not done? Unless the research is done independently, by a researcher with nothing to gain or lose form the results, such studies are always suspect in my mind. If a marketing company pays for research, will the researcher bite the hand that feeds him/her???
IGF-1 on same specimen, ng/ml
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186 |
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236 |
301 |
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97 |
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215 |
284 |
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250 |
406 |
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97 |
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169 |
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67
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89 |
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180 |
331 |
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200 |
379 |
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66 |
133 |
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261 |
143 |
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424 |
546 |
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159 |
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215 |
So I repeated the test with another two labs, to see if it was
just the above two labs or a consistent problem.
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LAB D |
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174 |
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84 |
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255 |
381 |
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I am now repeating this test by sending samples of the same blood
to the same lab on different weeks to see the differences in
results using the same lab both times.
So far the results are similar to the above, although the
differences are less.
Elmer M. Cranton, M.D.
Dale comments on the above results:
From: "Dale R. & Karen A. Hersh"
Subject: Re: IGF-1 Laboratory Tests
At first I looked at this as though these results show that testing IGF-1 was probably useless and this bothered me. Then I started looking at them a little closer and saw quite a bit of consistency. Lab B was mostly higher than A and when I put a calculator to the results, 10 of the split samples differ the same ratio .77 +/- .03 4 more had similar ratios, but at .55 Actually, these are pretty consistent results. It seems like it's more a question of calibration (if there is such a thing for IGF) or even who ran the test.
Depending on what days these results were run, there is more consistency than appears to be the case at first glance... A few
were completely off and I can't explain that without more information. So using the same lab may be the answer if one is going to get their IGF tested.
I couldn't see any correlation between C and D.
Correlation of IGF-1 and Prostate Cancer
A good study has shown that a large number of elderly male patients
taking HGH over a long time had no increase in prostate cancer.
That rumor got started when it was reported that elderly men with
the lowest quintile of IGF- (lowest fifth of HGH) had less cancer
than men with the highest 20% (highest fifth). There was no
linear correlation of IGF-1 and prostate cancer in the study.
They only reported less cancer in the most deficient of an
elderly population.
What that report did not point out was that the lowest fifth were
so deficient that all tissues of the body were inhibited in
growth, healing and maintenance-- healthy as well as cancerous. It
is quite a different thing to state that deficiency of essential
hormones slows the growth of cancer (and everything else
including a healthy body) and, on the other hand, trying to prove
that hormones cause cancer. Life and health cannot progress
without hormones. Cancer cannot progress without a living body to
support its growth. It is quite predictable that if old people
are dying from end stage deficiencies, they might have less
cancer.
If all of the facts were reported, it is my opinion that the most
senile and debilitated of the group would also have been those in
the lowest 20% of IGF-1. But that data was not presented.
If HGH is only replaced to an average level present in the body
for 30 years, from age 20 to age 50, and if it was safe during
that 30 year period, and if it was essential to health during
those 30 years, what is the harm in replacing it after age 50
when it becomes deficient? If it's dangerous, why does it not
cause problems in the earlier 30 years when it is normally
present in the same levels or higher from pituitary production?
(Note: Excessively high doses of hormones can be harmful, I am referring here only to normal replacement doses).
E M CRANTON, MD
For more information on Dr. Elmer Cranton's EDTA Chelation Therapy or growth hormone replacement therapy, go to: www.drcranton.com.
Dr. Cranton's Replies Answers Questions referring to Growth Hormone (rHGH) Replacement Therapy!
Dr. Cranton Re: Growth Hormone Replacement
This and other posts by Dr. Cranton to the Rejuvenation board are found in Digest No. 26, 27, and 28, which are found in the Archives of the
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January 3, 2008
Hi Ellis,
Just to give you my feedback, I started using HGH 3 months ago
at 1 iu per day. I had a slight headache for the first week, but
then it went away. In a retrospect, I should have lowered my dose
and let my body slowly adjust to it.
The results are very subtle. I still have crows feet by my eyes, and I don't see the backs of my hands being any different. However, small wrinkles above my upper lip disappeared, my lips are plumper, and they regained the vibrant color that they had when I was younger.
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reason why?
I also noticed that I have more muscles and my mood has improved. I am beginning to feel happy and optimistic as I used to until last couple of years (I'm now 52). I hope that this trend continues.
Thanks to you Dr. Ellis! I am grateful for all you do.
Roma
(e-mail received January 3, 2008)
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Feb. 26, 2008
Hi Ellis,
My wife wants to thank you, (and I want to thank you also) because since I have been controlling my sugar, I am not as moody.... For the last few years I was really irritable... I guess when your blood sugar is 200 to 400 all day it can make you grumpy....not to mention shorten your life..
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My doctor couldn`t believe it, or understand it: diet, insulin and Ellis!
thanks,
Yours in health,
Dr. Danny M DeGraff
http://www.alerfinmerida.com
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January, 2002
Hi Ellis,
"I am a plastic surgeon in Shreveport, Louisiana. I just found your two sites on the Internet. I've read your personal experience site twice and have read much of the Message board that contains over 6,000 messages. They are excellent.
I became interested in growth hormone and antiaging three years ago and have been taking growth hormone at bedtime for over two years. Like you, my results have been impressive. I'm 57 years old. I am 6 ft 1 in and weight 202 pounds with 9% body fat. I exercise regularly ( 5 times a week) and do moderate weight training.
My diet is good, high protein, moderate complex carbs and low fat.
After reading your page I certainly need to improve it some.
Due to my personal results, I started offering anti-aging and growth hormone replacement to my patients 8 months ago. I've read much of the literature and have attended two meetings of the American Academy of AntiAging Medicine. Although it only been a few months my patients are THRILLED about the therapy and almost all are reporting specific areas of improvement.
Thanks so much for your work in this area. I want to return to Puebla for more Spanish education. Possibly I could include some time in Mexice City also. I would love to meet you.
Gracias,
Dr. Jim McDonald
(e-mail received January, 2002)
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May 25, 2008
Hello Ellis,
I have tried studying insulin, EPO, HGH, etc. on the internet and to be honest, all searches and sites eventually led back to you... In my opinion, you have far more research and current knowledge of what works than anybody else I have found... Compared to you, everybody else seems outdated and very rigid in their thinking...
Maybe I will go and get certified in anti aging medicine in a few years in the US, but I won't go until after I study under you... I don't know why, but this feels right.
Yours in health,
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http://www.alerfinmerida.iamagel.com
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Note: I am not a doctor, and I do not give medical advice or treatment of any kind. My advice is limited to a discussion of nutrition and a general discussion of anti-aging hormones and available blood tests and therapies, etc. Please consult with an anti-aging doctor of your choice after you have consulted with me.
e-mail received on October 28, 2004:
"Here is my honest opinion of Dr. XXXXX: He is a very smart man and very kind, but his office is a chaotic mess and he is extremely understaffed. Since as a patient I can never speak to him on the phone etc. it is impossible to work closely enough with him to get proper dosing etc. He is so busy though that it is impossible to be monitored by him the way one should be when starting any hormone therapy. His phone is always busy, appts. are hard to come by and he is VERY expensive. The average visit ends up costing anywhere from $500-$750 depending on what he wants to do, such as blood draws, bone density testing etc. I plan to never go back.
I am currently using a small portion of progesterone which was recommended by him and have been taking DHEA and melatonin to help lower my cortisol levels. I buy my HGH from you, of course, and most of the other supplements he had me take made me sick, so I stopped taking them." - (a female patient of Dr. XXXXX (a very well known and competent and expensive doctor.)
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Table of Contents |
Buy Authentic Saizen, Humatrope, wholesale in Mexico |
Consult with Ellis Toussier (re: Good Nutrition, Anti-Aging Therapies) | Is HGH a cure for Eczema? |
HGH to Grow Taller |
HGH and Pain from a Neck Injury |
HGH and Psoriasis |
HGH and Lupus: How to Become Assymptomatic of Lupus |
HGH to Grow Hair |
HGH and Anti-Aging Program
| HGH and Menopause | RITUALS: What I Do Regularly to Stay Young and Sexy | ENERGY: How Do HGH, EPO, Testosterone, Insulin affect Energy? |
HGH and Macular Degeneration |
HGH, EPO, and Testosterone to Prevent Sarcopenia |
About Testosterone |
HGH and HIV+ |
What is EPO? |
Diabetes Made Simple |
Endocrinology Made Simple: The Big Five Anti-Aging Hormones "according to Ellis..." |
Five Theories of Aging: Why Do We Grow Older and How Can We Slow It Down ? |
AntiAging Secrets: A Risk Management Approach
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Rejuvenation, My Amazing 8 Point Anti-Aging Program | The Anti-Aging Anti-Diabetes Diet | The Anti-Aging Athletic Diet: How to Prevent Loss of Neurons |
How to Postpone Diabetes: Think Like a Diabetic! | The 70 Minute Glucose Roller Coaster Ride... My Pancreas Lives! |
Using Insulin: The Non-Diabetic Use of Insulin |
Frequently Asked Questions Re: Non-Diabetic Use of Insulin
|ENERGY: How do HGH, Testosterone, Insulin, and EPO affect energy?
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RITUALS: What I do every day to stay well...
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MYTHS: NOT TRUE. (re: good nutrition, hormones, diabetes, etc.) |
F.A.Q.: Does HGH Cause Diabetes? |
F.A.Q.: Does HGH Cause High Blood Glucose? |
Using Lantus: The Non-Diabetic Use of Lantus |
The Glucose Theory of Aging
| The Non-Diabetic Use of Insulin for Anti-Aging
| Assess Your Pancreas...
| Going Through U.S. Customs With HGH, EPO, and Insulin...
| The Anti-Aging Anti-Diabetes Diet...
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Anemia, EPO, and Senility
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The Carbohydrate Thermometer |
10 Typical Glucose Tolerance Test Results |
EPO F.A.Q.
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Normal Values of Red Blood Cells
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HGH F.A.Q.
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Ellis Toussier's Hb-A1c to Mean Plasma Glucose Conversion Table
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Side Effects of Excess Dose of HGH
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J. Donelson Jones, Age 92, the Amazing Interview
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About Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome
| The Signs of Aging: 46 Biomarkers that show up IF you are aging
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Confessions of The Amazing Dirty Old Man... My Secret Sex Life Revealed...
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The Best of Rejuvenation
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Trisoralen (Meladinina): A Pigment Potentiator for your skin or hair...
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A Message From Mexico...
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Face to Face with Ellis Toussier (interview)
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About My Legendary Ego...
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My Diploma: Why I Know I Am Qualified to Say: "I know what I'm doing..."
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