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From: Dr. Richard Lippman
January 27, 2008
"I have been actively practicing anti-aging medicine since 1978. I have also been called a madman, but my commitment to anti-aging medicine has paid off through the years.
I want to thank you for your brilliant web site which provides a very valuable service for all those suffering from aging and multiple hormone difficulties. I read and try to remember everything you write. I believe as you do that all hormones should be corrected if they are less than optimal.
You truly understand insulin, and you understand Type 2
diabetes better than many American physicians. I also
admire your extensive knowledge of HGH which is often a
mystery to those outside of anti-aging medicine.
Sometime I would like to stop over in Mexico City when I travel to South America to meet you. Keep up the good work. You are the greatest."
Dr. Rich Lippman
From: Dr. Frank Myers
November 20, 2008
You should have a legendary ego. You certainly should not need any validation. YOU ARE THE BEST at what you do! You have done an incredible job educating people on how they can improve their life. I cannot imagine the number of people you have helped.
Most American doctors fall short despite their long education. Your work would put most American physicians to shame. Probably one reason is that most physicians don't have the same passion you have toward their field. You are one of a kind and an asset to the medical community.
I am one doctor that truly appreciates the efforts you have made in helping people.
How do I feel? Outstanding, thanks to you.
Frank Myers M.D.
What is EPO?
e-mail received: September 10, 2006
Thank you for such an informative website. I loved every printed word. - Dawn"
You have just won first prize for "Push My Buttons"...
Thanks... I love it when somebody says something nice about my website, which
means, about what you learn from my website... I am proud to be an original... one doctor calls me "The Man with the Legendary Ego" but how can I not have a
legendary ego when people write and say nice things about me, or what they
learn from me? In any case, thanks for the nice words. READ ON! - Ellis
WHO IS ELLIS TOUSSIER?
I have been called "The Man with the Legendary Ego..." I can't help it. I actually LIKE the title. If I tell you the truth about who I am and what I have done and what I can do for you, somebody is sure to say that it isn't true and that I am boasting... I say that many "experts" are wrong about diet... hormones... diabetes... blood glucose... and I demonstrate it with numbers.
I am the King of Growth Hormone. I am not boasting. I have earned the title. I have used growth hormone every single day since June, 1998 (now nearly 10 years) which is longer than most doctors even heard of using growth hormone for anything other than helping children to grow taller. I have helped literally thousands of people around the world to learn about and use growth hormone correctly... and I have taught hundreds of doctors about the use of growth hormone, and many things that they didn't know about growth hormone before I came on the scene. This is important for you, because YOU should want to learn from the King of Growth hormone, and not from anybody else.
I am the Father of the use of EPO for relatively healthy persons. Again, I am not boasting. I think I am the first person on earth who began to use EPO to reverse the decline of red blood cells that occurs with age. Most doctors think EPO is very dangerous, so they don't even consider prescribing it to their patients... Doctors see the decline of red blood cells with age as "normal" and I see it as a natural tragedy, and a cause of senility. I still do not know any doctor who is taking EPO himself, or prescribing it to his patients to correct anemia, or to avoid senility, or to increase energy.
All this is important for you, because if you decide to use EPO, you will want to use it correctly, and you should buy it through me because I will teach you to use it correctly.
If you don't know what is EPO, see this page:
(note: Don't get distracted... read it after you finish reading this essay)
I am the Father... AND THE MOTHER... of the use of insulin for non-diabetics. Once again, I am not boasting. As far as I know, I was the first non-diabetic (in 2002) to use insulin for anti-aging purposes. And as far as I know, I am still the only non-diabetic that I know of that has been using insulin 4 or 5 times every day for several years, and enjoys it, and with excellent results.
When I first began to use insulin, every single doctor I know advised me not to do it, because they said it would cause diabetes... or they said it would cause my pancreas to "get lazy" or stop producing insulin... it might cause hypoglycemia... it might cause brain damage... it would increase resistance to insulin... and other well-intentioned advice, every bit of which turned out to be mistaken...
And even after I have injected insulin four or five times every day since 2002 and I have NOT become diabetic or had hypoglycemia or brain damage, many doctors continue to say it is dangerous for me to use insulin and not necessary and not beneficial to me. (That is why I say I am "The Father... AND THE MOTHER... of the use of insulin for non-diabetics" because I have to fight with doctors all the time to do what the glucose meter proves is good for me.)
My experience is absolutely incredible to most doctors because it conflicts directly with what they have learned in their medical books... I know it helps me because I read the results on a glucose meter... I do not know any doctor anywhere in the world who uses insulin himself if he is not a diabetic, or who prescribes insulin to patients who are not diabetics... But I know many doctors who don't prescribe insulin to diabetic patients, or who only prescribe insulin as a last resort to their diabetic patients after the doctor himself has caused the patient to become desperately ill....
This is really important for you, because most doctors will advise you NOT to use insulin if you are a diabetic. You want to learn all you can ABOUT using insulin if you are a diabetic, and also if you are NOT a diabetic, because you are interested in never becoming a diabetic. I am not a diabetic and I know how to use insulin because I have been using it for many years... so you want to learn all that you can from me, and not from anybody who is afraid of using insulin, even if that person is a "doctor".
In my opinion, not prescribing insulin when it is precisely what is indicated is a huge medical blunder on the part of all of these so-called "experts," and this is only one example of how mistaken the "experts" can be...
Non-Diabetic Use of Insulin
(note: Don't get distracted... read it after you finish reading this essay)
I have taught many doctors my own very strict interpretation of blood glucose levels based on my own theory of aging, and my interpretation is correct, and cannot be improved (remember, I am "The Man with the Legendary Ego"...) Hundreds of doctors around the world subscribe to my forum, Rejuvenation, where we discuss "the Gospel According to Saint Ellis"...My theories and my doses and my interpretation of blood glucose and many anti aging therapies have been widely accepted by many doctors. So they have changed what they were previously recommending to their patients based on the mistaken guides they learned in medical schools and books.
The Glucose Theory of Aging and the Correct Interpretation of Blood Glucose
(note: This is one of my best pages, but don't get distracted... read it after you finish reading this essay)
I put together a "Carbohydrate Thermometer" based on more than 6000 Food Tables that allows anybody to tell at a glance what is the carbohydrate content of thousands of foods with reasonable accuracy:
The Carbohydrate Thermometer
(note: Don't get distracted... read it after you finish reading this essay)
I have drawn my own Food Guide Pyramid based on my own "Glucose Theory of Aging," and on my own "Carbohydrate Thermometer", which is almost the reverse of the infamous U.S.D.A. Food Guide Pyramid. "According to Ellis" the U.S.D.A. Food Guide Pyramid recommends a diet that is causing diabetes for millions of persons who follow its erroneous advice, so you should at least study if mine is better.
The Good Guide Pyramid
(note: Don't get distracted... read it after you finish reading this essay)
I have had the privilege to teach thousands of persons to get optimal health, and I have taught hundreds of doctors about Growth Hormone and many other anti aging therapies, which is really medicine...
"What is Magic about Ellis Toussier is that he teaches doctors ideas that we did not learn in Medical School or he shows us "facts" that are mistaken in Medical books... and he is not a doctor." - Gerardo Diaz Bautista, M.D. (Professor, National Politechnic Institute Medical School, Mexico City.)
A few hundred years ago, I would have been considered a "doctor" because I already know more about anti-aging medicine than most anti-aging doctors, and because I have been an apprentice of good doctors, as doctors used to do to become doctors... and now I teach what I have learned to many other good doctors. Today I consult with many good doctors, and many good doctors consult with me.
If I have seen some things further than anybody else or any other doctor it really is because I stood on the shoulders of giants.
I have been called "The Guy In Mexico who helps people to stay young"... and I have also been called "The Madman in Mexico."
Some doctors call me "Colleague"... and others call me "Dangerous..."
I have been called "The Expert in Mexico" and I have been called "The Man with the Legendary Ego."
Take your pick...
I hope that after you read this essay you will agree that I am "The King" and not that I am crazy, or dangerous... unless you think it is madness or dangerous to want to slow down or even reverse the aging process to stay young and healthy... and worse, to be actually doing it, and having actually done it!
Ellis Photo Album, age 53 to 62
(note: Don't get distracted... see it after you finish reading this essay)
I have been a member/subscriber of your group for a few years.
You seem to be always correct and somehow always ahead or in front
of the main stream "authorities".
Yes, you state you are not a Doctor, and you have never attended
any formal classes. Nevertheless, you deserve at least the title
Based on the Authority of this Great Rejuvenated Life that I follow, Learned from all the Writings You have provided Herein, that has Allowed Me to Remain Biologically Forever Young
I Hereby Declare You my Honorary Doctor of Anti Aging Philosophy,
With all the Rights, Honors and Privileges thereunto appertaining.
Go Forward and Teach those that Refuse to Believe, and Make Believers of Them.
I sincerely mean what I have just written.
[Well... Hello, Phyly... Thanks! I'm thrilled. You couldn't have
found a more modest person to tell this to, either. It is just what
I needed to put my "legendary ego" up to the stars for another month,
But just to put it all into perspective, I remind you what a well known
doctor said about me on another forum (This is the person and this is the post from which I take the title "the Man With the Legendary Ego" which I love to quote) :
"This so called 'expert' is one of the most controversial people in the antiaging field. His ego is legendary.
He is not an authority in this field at all.
If one reads his website you will quickly discover that his theories
about antiaging are not just unconventional they are downright
For some reason he develops 'theories' against all previous research
and experience and advocates these bogus concepts based on nothing
but his personal experience as new protocals for antiaging therapy.
One example is his very uninformed concept of using insulin as an
adjunct to rHGH therapy. He states that he injects up to 5IUs of rHGH
and has high insulin levels - this is not surprising as the literature
on rHGH use lists insulin resistance problems as the number one
potential side-effect of rHGH therapy.
NO. I do NOT have high insulin levels. And I do NOT have insulin resistance problems... My pancreas has
a high capability to produce insulin. This is demonstrated
if I do NOT inject insulin and I drink a large glass of orange juice: My
blood glucose goes UP to 160 mg/dl in 35 minutes, and then it does DOWN
AGAIN to below 100 in a little more than 35 minutes.
This is PROOF that my pancreas is working very well, if I ever need
for it to work...
HOWEVER... Because I inject the proper dose of insulin at the proper
moment, my blood glucose is usually very low. Therefore, the amount of
insulin floating about in my blood is extremely LITTLE, which is
proof that I do not have insulin resistance problem... it is so low it
goes OFF THE CHARTS... less than 3, on a scale of 3 to 25... this is "Like
For some reason he has not put these two facts together - and instead
of questioning his protocal of rHGH use he advocates taking insulin
injections to control the excess blood sugar (this also in a man who
claims to eat a very high protein diet and almost no carbohydrates except
those in vegetables and fruits)-
[NOTE: SO WHAT OTHER SOURCE OF CARBOHYDRATES DO YOU WANT ME TO
EAT FROM? STARCHES? BREADS? SWEETS? SUGAR? WHAT IS WRONG WITH GETTING MY CARBOHYDRATES FROM VEGETABLES AND FRUITS?
AS FOR MY USE OF INSULIN... THIS MORNING I WOKE UP AND GLUCOSE LEVEL WAS
108... I INJECTED 2 IU OF INSULIN, AND ABOUT AN HOUR LATER MY GLUCOSE IS 97,
AND DROPPING... SO, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? - ELLIS]
There is obviously something wrong with his use of rHGH but instead of questioning that he adds insulin as a controlling agent in his
rHGH protocal. This is not intelligent!
[NOTE: EXCUSE ME, DOCTOR, WHAT IS "OBVIOUSLY WRONG" WITH MY USE OF
rHGH? I AM YOUNG AND HEALTHY... AND I WAS BORN IN AUGUST, 1945, SO I AM 62 YEARS OLD. WHAT ELSE IS
BETTER? TO BE YOUNG AND HEALTHY AND 45 YEARS OLD... I'M THAT, TOO.
Another issue I have with him is his use of EPO - why would any person who is healthy need EPO? a person (of any age) who has good
hormone balance and eats well - with good muscle functioning - does
not need help with hemoglobin and hematocrit.
If he is as healthy as he claims why would he need help with oxygen
metabolism. Even if one does need help with oxygen then there are
many safer and cheaper (much cheaper) alternatives."
[QUITE FRANKLY, DOCTOR... IF YOU THINK MY USE OF rHGH IS "OBVIOUSLY
WRONG" THEN MY USE OF EPO IS TOO ADVANCED FOR YOUR BIRD BRAIN TO UNDERSTAND...
IT IS PATHETIC THAT YOU STUDIED MEDICINE AND YOU ARE A DOCTOR, AND YOU WRITE
SUCH NONSENSE. I NEVER STUDIED A FORMAL COURSE OF MEDICINE FOR EVEN ONE DAY, AND
I CAN GIVE YOU LESSONS ABOUT BLOOD GLUCOSE AND ABOUT DIABETES AND ABOUT INSULIN AND ABOUT EPO AND ABOUT ANEMIA AND ABOUT SARCOPENIA AND ABOUT GROWTH HORMONE AND ABOUT PREVENTING HEART ATTACKS, CANCER, DIABETES, KIDNEY DISEASE, AND SENILITY.
THIS IS MY DIPLOMA.
WHAT I AM DOING IS TOO FAR AHEAD OF YOUR MEDICAL BOOKS AND YOUR OPINION.
YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE AT ALL IN WHAT I AM DOING, SO JUST KEEP SILENT AND DON'T INTERFERE. OBSERVE ME FOR THE NEXT FORTY YEARS... TIME WILL TELL IF YOU ARE RIGHT OR I AM RIGHT... AND I AM WILLING TO PLACE A BET THAT I AM RIGHT, AND I WILL GIVE YOU 10 TO 1 ODDS.
IN ANY CASE, I AM AND HAVE BEEN YOUNG FOR 62 YEARS, WHICH IS LONGER THAN ALMOST ANYBODY ELSE IN HISTORY, EXCEPT FOR A HANDFUL OF OTHER ANTI-AGING PIONEERS WHO ARE ALSO STAYING YOUNG AND WHO TAUGHT ME HOW TO STAY YOUNG. YOU SHOULD LEARN FROM ALL OF US.
BUT, IN SHORT... MORE RED BLOOD CELLS RUNNING THROUGH MY BODY HELPS ME
TO AVOID LOSS OF NEURONS, AND THAT HELPS TO KEEP ME YOUNG AND HEALTHY.
MY BLOOD IS 55% RED BLOOD CELLS, COMPARED TO YOUR BLOOD WHICH IS PROBABLY
ABOUT 45% RED BLOOD CELLS... THIS MEANS THERE IS MORE OXYGEN GOING
THROUGH MY BODY KEEPING MY ORGANS HEALTHY, AND THERE IS MORE OXYGEN CIRCULATING IN MY BRAIN KEEPING MY MIND HEALTHY, AND THERE IS MORE OXYGEN CIRCULATING THROUGH MY BODY SUPPLYING MY NERVOUS SYSTEM AVOIDING LOSS OF NEURONS.
I KNOW IT IS TOO ADVANCED FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND, BUT AT LEAST KEEP
QUIET AND TRY TO LEARN SOME NEW IDEAS.
"THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE CAN STOP THE CLOCK AND GROW YOUNGER SHOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH THOSE OF US WHO HAVE ALREADY STOPPED THE CLOCK AND ARE GROWING YOUNGER." - - ELLIS TOUSSIER]
[Which just goes to caution you: A DOCTOR says my use of HGH is
"obviously wrong," and my use of insulin is "uninformed," and my use
of EPO is "unneeded". He says I am "not an authority at all," and he
thinks my ideas are "downright dangerous". (Of course, he also said my Ego is Legendary, so he does say some things that I think are true.)
So I really mean this: you should all think twice before you do anything that I do, and you should study everything that you learn on Rejuvenation with caution, and if you decide to do it, it is at your own risk.
I think what I do is less risky than not doing what I do. I keep on
telling you that I am my only patient... I tell you what I do, and I tell you how I do it... but I don't tell anybody to do what I do, unless you ask me to help you to do it. - Ellis]
You are one heck of a guy.
Every morning look in the mirror at yourself, be proud, and repeat
Oh Lord it is so hard to be humble,
When you are perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in this mirror,
I get better looking and younger each day.
To know me, is to love me,
I am just one knowledgeable man.
Oh Lord it is so hard to be humble,
I'm doing the best that I can!!
Ellis, I think others here feel the same about what you have taught us
regarding Rejuvenation etc.
With all this said,
Stay Healthy, Stay young
[Well, coming from YOU, Phily, it is really an honor. Phily
was Guest of Honor on Rejuvenation several years ago, so for
those who don't know him, he is quite an authority. It really
is quite an honor for me that he has been subscribed to
Rejuvenation for about 6 years. Thanks, Phily!
Ha! I just called a girl friend over here to read
what you wrote above and... she was pretty impressed...
But then we got to the part where I should stand in front
of a mirror and repeat your Lord's Prayer... and we
She thought about it a moment... then she said...
"You never do that, do you? You never do that!"
ha! Now you have both made me laugh out loud! - Ellis]
From the Archives of Rejuvenation:
Thursday, September 29, 2005
T.M. Jennings wrote
I'm new to the group and have a simple question:
I'm considering anti-aging clinics in the US and am wondering if
there are similar outfits in Mexico. I know you do a lot of work
one-on-one for visitors and mail-order customers. But I'd like to
look at clinics south of the border to see if they are cheaper and
also provide alternative anti-aging therapies that might be hard to
find up here.
Thanks for your thoughts.
I happen to have three anti-aging doctors in Mexico City... one for hyperbaric oxygen, one for EDTA chelation, and one for skin care and medicine
in general... but I don't know any anti aging clinic in Mexico where I would LEARN anything new, or where I find the latest and sharpest ideas being tried.
In fact it is the opposite, I TEACH my doctors what I learn from you, then they help me to do what I want to do.
If I were you, I would find a good anti aging doctor in the U.S.,
close to you, and I would buy HGH through me.
You might also CONSULT with me... I don't want to boast, but I think
I might be THE person on Planet Earth that knows more about more
anti aging therapies than anybody else... It sounds silly to say it
myself, but when I think about it, I can't think of anybody else
on planet Earth who takes as many anti aging hormones regularly (6)
and does or has taken as many other anti aging therapies as I do or
I have, including EDTA chelation, hyperbaric oxygen, Thermage, Fraxell,
Botox, etc.... even apitherapy! And who monitors blood glucose
constantly and takes insulin if called for, which is several times
Maybe it doesn't really matter that I know MORE... let me just say
that I know AS MUCH or more than my own doctors, who all learned
about growth hormone, testosterone, EPO, and using insulin from me.
Anyways... the proof is in the pudding, as they say. I don't
know anybody else in Mexico City who is 62 years old who is in as
good physical shape as I am... and I know other persons on the
same wavelength, and we are all taking at least growth hormone,
men are taking testosterone, and women are taking estrogen and
progesterone... and almost every one of the people that I know who
are doing very well are subscribed to Rejuvenation, or they consult
with me by e-mail or telephone.
In any case, this isn't a beauty contest, where I proclaim myself
the most beautiful, because that's not the point... the point is to
stay very well, and very healthy... I am just telling you, because
you asked, what you should do: Find yourself a doctor near you...
and consult with me by telephone, so you can cross check what your
doctor says with what I say, and vice versa.
When you have to buy growth hormone, buy it through me, which helps
you and helps me. I will probably save you thousands of dollars,
which you would have spent making mistakes, and you know I will
steer you in the right direction.
I don't say all this arrogantly, although I know many who say I
am conceited. I know I must seem conceited to say that I am THE
person on planet earth that does more anti aging therapies than
anybody else... but when I think about it, I can't think of anybody
else that I know of on the internet (including doctors) or off the
internet who takes EPO, AND ALSO INSULIN... so that alone puts me
ONE or TWO hormones ahead of anybody else that I know.
And I also take hyperbaric oxygen and EDTA chelation therapy... AND also other anti aging therapies, too...
I have even let Bees sting me, to try apitherapy. (Maybe it works, and I think it is probably very good for certain painful conditions like arthritis, etc... but I don't have arthritis and I don't want more of it, thank you... I'll stay away from bees, and I'll stay with growth hormone!...)
(Note: If you know anybody who takes SIX anti-aging hormones regularly,
let me know about him. I take: growth hormone, testosterone, EPO, and
Insulin... and I take DHEA and melatonin, which are not as dramatic
as the first four, but I take them anyways... I don't take thyroid
because I don't need it, but I have taken it, and I would take it,
if I needed it. I also sometimes take pregnenolone, HCG, oxytocin, progesterone, and various other hormones, but let's not count them because
I don't take them regularly. )
Now... whether it is A GOOD THING or A STUPID THING for me to take
all these hormones, in particular EPO and also INSULIN, is a
different matter... So you can decide that I am a fool for taking
them... but TIME WILL TELL. I have a hunch I am right, and in any
case if it turns out that I am mistaken in the meantime, I feel very
well doing what I do, so I'm not going to change my mind about it
If I ever find out that I was mistaken, if my body starts to crumble
and deteriorate faster than it would have anyways, then I promise
I'll let all of you know. In the meantime, it has been more than 7
years that I have taken growth hormone, DHEA, and melatonin... and 5
years that I have taken testosterone... and 3 or 4 years that I have
taken insulin and EPO and checked my blood glucose 24 hours a day...
And I'm better off physically at age 62 than I was at age 52... so I
guess I am in my 40's or less, physically...
So I'm not going to change my mind about keeping my hematocrit up at
54% or my glucose levels down to 90 mg/dl or 80 mg/dl no matter what
criticism I get from doctors, (and I have been severely criticised
by many doctors, especially for taking insulin, as well as I have
received a lot of moral support by many doctors, especially my
doctors in Mexico and doctors here on Rejuvenation...)
Just so you don't feel bad about me being criticized by doctors,
anybody who takes injectible growth hormone and is not a child
growing up, or an old man with extreme growth hormone deficiency,
is being criticized by SOME doctors. In particular, you are being
criticised by many endocrinologists, who are the specialists who
should be most in favor of what we are doing... but they're not.
The Official Word is that we are doing something that is not
approved by them.
So if you are phased by criticism, don't take injectible growth
hormone or testosterone, and go ahead and grow old together with
It is a shame, isn't it, that Baseball players are being crucified
publically for taking hormones that ARE GOOD for their body? And
there doesn't seem to be anybody in the U.S. who dares to stand up
for them publicly, or for the wiseness of taking hormones that are
GOOD for our body.
I am afraid that this public cremation of baseball players in the
U.S. Congress is going to end up with hormones being severely
restricted by Law in the U.S.A., and later in the rest of the world
after they take the matter to the United Nations, as they already
have done for VITAMINS.
I find myself in the minority that uses and wants to continue to
use hormones to stay well, against the majority that doesn't know
what we are doing, and who says we must all get sick and grow old
because it is "Natural" and to stay well is "cheating".
Doesn't this all sound like "1984" by George Orwell? It is a
science fiction horror story becoming a reality.
Big Brother is Watching.
thanks for writing,
Date: Sun Oct 2, 2005 9:15 am
From: "Idelle Port"
Well, not all by choice, I'm taking at least six hormones exogenously
and have a couple endogenous ones that are operating autonomously
(i.e. not supplemented by me, but suppressed LH, FSH, and low ACTH)...
I somtimes take DHEA and pregnenolone, sometimes progesterone as well
as estradiol. at times I've had suppressed TSH with low or below normal
FT3/FT4, so endocrinologists kept lowering my thyroid meds attempting to
unsuppress TSH... another mistake... one that led me into the arms
of the psychiatrists at age 60, some of whom are among the dumbest,
least logical docs and weirdest people I've ever encountered... second only
to some endocrinolgists I've seen.
[Ha! You don't like endocrinologists either. Did you know that
Dr. Ronald Klatz was invited to give a conference to a group of
Endocrinologists, I suppose about the use of growth hormone for
anti aging purposes... The conference was organized by Serono, so
the endocrinologists didn't know who would be there... When Dr.
Klatz got up to speak, THEY BOOED HIM UNTIL HE LEFT THE STAGE
without giving his conference!
This unbelievable but true story was told to me by Dr. Allyn
Brizell, who was there. So, chalk up one more for endocrinologists.
Of course, not all endocrinologists... Some endocrinologists have
joined the American Academy of Anti Aging Medicine, so now they
are anti aging doctors too. So... it is impossible to generalize
about thousands of doctors, there are always the exceptions. But
in general I think like anti aging doctors, and I clash with
I always love to tell this story to endocrinologists, too, just
to see if I can get them to hate me a little more. - Ellis]
August 21, 2008
A man age 65 wrote:
"I went to the endocrinologist. She would not even test my HGH levels. She did test my testosterone level. She says it is normal... she says the normal range is from 200-900 and I am in the middle at 420. Is this possible at the age of 65???
A RESULT OF 420 IS NOT SO GREAT... IF I WAS THE ENDOCRINOLOGIST, I WOULD SAY YOU SHOULD SUPPLEMENT IF YOU CAN, TO GET IT UP TO 700 OR MORE... - Ellis
I also asked why she would not test for my HGH levels? She said from the looks of me, physically I was not deficient in HGH.
OH??? SHE COULD TELL THAT YOU DO NOT NEED GROWTH HORMONE, WITHOUT A BLOOD TEST, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE AGE 65?
LET ME GUESS: YOU ARE 65 YEARS OLD BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WRINKLES ON YOUR FACE, THE SKIN ON YOUR FACE AND NECK AND HANDS AND ARMS IS WELL HYDRATED AND TIGHT, YOUR NAILS AND HAIR GROW VERY FAST, YOUR HAIR HAS NOT FALLEN OUT OR CHANGED COLOR, YOU ARE FULL OF PEP AND ENERGY, YOU SLEEP VERY WELL LIKE YOU DID WHEN YOU WERE 18 YEARS OLD, YOU HAVE NO ACHES OR PAINS IN YOUR BODY, AND YOU HARDLY EVER CATCH A COLD... AND IF YOU DO IT IS A VERY LIGHT COLD... AND IN YOUR OPINION YOU THINK YOU LOOK AS GOOD AS YOU DID WHEN YOU WERE 25 YEARS OLD. - ELLIS
She did mention that it wouldn't be good for my diabetes.
IN WHAT WAY WOULD IT BE BAD FOR YOUR DIABETES? - ELLIS
I asked her if it would boost my metabolism? She said it would. So I asked her why, if it will boost my metabolism, why would it be bad for my diabetes? She said it just would not do my diabetes any good.
BUT YOU DIDN'T ASK HER IF IT WOULD BE *** GOOD *** FOR YOUR DIABETES. YOU ASKED HER HOW WOULD IT BE *** BAD *** FOR YOUR DIABETES... BUT SHE ANSWERED THAT IT WOULDN'T DO ANY GOOD FOR YOUR DIABETES... THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. - ELLIS
So I asked her if it would make it worse? She said probably not.
PROBABLY NOT? BUT SHE HAD SAID IT WOULD BE BAD FOR YOUR DIABETES... THEN SHE SAID IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE NOT BAD FOR YOUR DIABETES...
SO WHICH ONE IS IT? DOES SHE KNOW WHAT SHE IS SAYING, OR IS SHE JUST GUESSING, JUST SPEAKING TO SPEAK?
But she would not be inclined to prescribe it to me or any one unless they were preteens with short stature.
SO SHE WOULD NOT PRESCRIBE IT TO TEENS AGE 13 TO 19... AND SHE WOULD BE SORELY MISTAKEN, BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN MALE AND FEMALE TEENS GROW TWO OR THREE INCHES IN A FEW MONTHS, AFTER ENDOCRINOLOGISTS TOLD THEM IT IS TOO LATE FOR THEM TO GROW TALLER...
AND WHEN SHE SAYS "SHORT STATURE" SHE MEANS LESS THAN 5' 2"... IF THEY ARE TALLER THAN 5' 2", THEN SHE WOULD NOT PRESCRIBE HGH TO THEM EITHER.
So it was a waste of time, just as you said it would be, as well as a waste of money.
As for the upcoming paper from my husband, Sid Port, men with known
heart disease really should examine their blood glucose...
[Of course, no doubt about that. High Blood glucose is the cause of
diabetes AND of heart disease because it damages the circulatory
"According to Ellis" DIABETES as defined by me is THE base disease,
the bottom cause of heart disease, cancer, and kidney disease.
("according to Ellis" are things that I say it, but I don't or
can't prove... You can accept it or reject it, but if you accept it
as true, it usually explains something or it gives you a way of
looking at things, or a plan of action... and it can't harm you,
it can only help you to accept it as true.)
That's why I say it is good to declare yourself a Diabetic long
before you are declared a diabetic according to the criteria of
the American Diabetes Association... so you start to take care of
your Future Diabetes NOW, and not later.
That is why I monitor my blood glucose many times every day.
Sometimes I get high readings (eg. 140 or 150) but I would have
gotten them anyways, or higher, if I wouldn't have gotten into
the habit of monitoring my blood glucose. And when I do get high
glucose levels, I DO SOMETHING to try to bring it down to 90, or
"According to Ellis" this is how I interpret glucose levels:
50 is Very Low
60 is Low
70 to 90 is Optimum, where 70 is better than 90.
100 is High
110 is Very High
120 is Bad
140 is Terrible
160 is Horrible
180 is Deathly
200 and more is Suicidal
It is bad to get a 150 mg/dl, but it is better to know it and do
something about it, than not to know it because you don't monitor
your blood glucose and hope for the best.
O.K., you take at least six hormones... but take 1. growth hormone,
and 2. testosterone or estrogen and progesterone,3. EPO, 4. Insulin,
5. DHEA, and 6. melatonin plus the ones you take and I will accept
you take as many or more anti aging hormones than I do.
EPO and Insulin, in particular, are the two biggies that I take
that most doctors don't take or prescribe. And I do mean they
are "biggies"... EPO makes a dramatic difference, and I think insulin
is the best hormone of all to learn to take... I don't understand
why more doctors don't try them, at least on themselves. - Ellis]
Though from my experience and that of others who have used cinnamon
(or cinnulin) capsules, substantial decrease in blood sugar without
hypoglycemia seems achievable....
I'm not diabetic, but even so...
I know you are scared of hypoglycemia... that's probably why you
don't use insulin. But once you learn the basics of using insulin,
there is nothing else that is going to be better to control blood glucose than insulin. No matter how "natural" cinnamon seems, there is
nothing "unnatural" about insulin, and it is only dangerous if you
don't know how to use it.
So learn to use it, and it is not dangerous! I NEVER get
hypoglycemia, and I inject insulin 4 or 5 or 6 times every day, and
I am not the least bit scared that I might get hypoglycemia, because
I ALWAYS have a bite to eat when I take insulin. Period. That is
all it takes not to get hypoglycemia, in my case... that, and the
correct dose of insulin at the right time, of course...
thanks for writing,
After reading all your pages as well as reading
these posts I have figured out your Ego Problem.
Actually, it's not "your" problem - at all.
It all has to do with these expert "Physicians" and
how you "unknowingly" and PUBLICLY gently REMOVE
them from their grand pedestals of knowledge.
You see Ellis, you offend these people and intimidate
them because you not only walk your talk, but you actually
do what they don't have the guts to do. You test all
this stuff on yourself - SCIENTIFICALLY... and... you
share it with all of us here (and around the world) so we
Then, if that's not bad enough to get them madder than
Hornets... you back it up with blood tests, and other
people AND PHYSICIANS END UP AGREEING WITH YOU!
[Yes... the ones on Rejuvenation do, usually. Not always,
not on everything, but at least they know I'm not as raving
mad, or dangerous, as some other doctors say I am ... - Ellis]
(laughs!). Unlike Physicians who learn 80% of what they
know from text books and research papers... you, Ellis,
learn the 80% in the REAL WORLD (your body!).
I'm willing to bet if we had lunch together you are
one of the most UNegotistical guys on the planet.
[Yes... I have been told that, too, by the people who
love me... these are also the people who think I am not so
crazy, and who follow all or parts of my program.
But it is difficult NOT to be very happy with my results,
and if I tell people about it, some of them think it is
my "legendary ego"...
The FACT is that my eight point program is ORIGINAL...
it was not copied from anybody...
The Carbohydrate Thermometer is original, it was not
copied from anybody...
The Glucose Theory of Aging is original, it was not copied
from anybody... My table to interpret blood glucose is original,
it was not copied from anybody, much less from DOCTORS...
My Poor Man's Glucose Tolerance Test was my idea...
To use insulin when I am not a diabetic was my idea...
To use EPO to prevent senility and to prevent sarcopenia was
and is my idea...
My page on sarcopenia is still the best in the internet, and
it will continue to be the best until somebody else reads it
and copies it, or changes it a little bit and says it is his.
And it is a fact that I am using Growth hormone, Testosterone,
EPO, Insulin, DHEA, melatonin, and sometimes pregnenolone,
oxytocin, progesterone, and HCG... and Dr. Ronald Klatz only
mentions FIVE hormones in his book "Grow Young with HGH" (HGH,
testosterone, DHEA, melatonin, and thyroid) which is still one
of the best books to read about HGH...
I am not criticizing Ronald Klatz for this, I am just pointing
out that I know I am at least TWO VERY IMPORTANT MAJOR LEAGUE
HORMONES ahead of his book: insulin for a non-diabetic, and EPO.
And it is a fact that his book doesn't mention hyperbaric
oxygen or EDTA chelation, or getting rid of parasites, or
many other therapies that I think are ESSENTIAL in my
anti aging program.
So... I learned a lot from many doctors, but many DOCTORS also
have learned from me... and many DOCTORS are using my program
as the model for their own clinics...
And many DOCTORS are furious with me, too, for knocking their gold
mines down, when they were charging $50 per iu for HGH, in 1998.
So... If I SAY or WRITE these things that are simple facts,
then I am accused by some of having a legendary ego.
So... if I do, I do. Who cares if I have a legendary ego? It is difficult to be modest, if I list what I have done, because I have done amazing things. I am amazed at what I have done, too.
But I did it because I happened to be the right man, in the right country, at the right time. I could never have done this if I lived in the U.S.A., where I would never have been able to buy the medicines I use, or if I was a doctor because I would have probably been reprimanded by other doctors and maybe lost my license to practice medicine... or if I hadn't had the input and feedback from the thousands of doctors and patients who have written to me and helped me on Rejuvenation over many years.
It doesn't make me any MONEY to have my "legendary ego," and I haven't asked
anybody to pay me any money to read my program, or to learn what I can teach you about glucose, or using insulin, or to assess the state of your pancreas, etc.
Speaking about my GOOD RESULTS is like counting money in front of poor people... some of them are less than 60 years old but they look like my grandfathers... Or they get jealous because they are sexually finished, and I am still like a young spring rooster, still happy to see the hens...
They might feel envious when I WRITE about my good results, and my good health, and my young body that was born 62 years ago. I WISH I could help them, but most of them won't listen to me, or they are afraid to try a different way.
So maybe that's why they say I have a legendary ego...
And I guess I do, if being healthy and 48 at age 62 means I
have a legendary ego, I'm glad I have a legendary ego instead of really being
my age... - Ellis]
So, keep up the great work as one day you will be looked back
on as a pioneer of age management medicine... Someone who our
Anti Aging Fore Fathers would be proud of!
Like Huckleberry Finn, I would like to attend my funeral and
listen to what they will say about me...
Please bury me with a lot of growth hormone, and plenty of
testosterone... next to the tomb of a beautiful girl...
and please don't forget: a small shovel.
I expect I will soon be forgotten, and somebody else will take the credit for what I have done... It doesn't really matter to me if I am forgotten, I
just wish I could be alive and healthy for longer, everything
else is vanity, and relatively unimportant...
Unlike the people who are seeking immortality and doing nothing
to achieve it, I am not seeking immortality, nor do I expect I
will be immortal. But I am doing something about trying to postpone
And I would be really pleased if somebody would keep my pages up
on the internet, for others to continue to read them and learn
If I ever enter the Guinness Book of World Records, I do not want
it to be as "the oldest man alive..." (although I wouldn't
mind too much if I enter it for that reason, too.)
I want to break the record as "the oldest man alive who could still father
a child"... And I hope I will still love women and enjoy to see
pretty women until the day I stretch the leg.
PS- I just had another blood test done yesterday but
haven't got the results yet and... please warn people
here about "Telemedicine" clinics on the internet as
their business model is flawed - all their revenues
are based on volumes of medication being sold... hence
larger doses equals greater profits.
These guys didn't even caution me about SUGAR and HGH.
Thanks to you Ellis I gave up sugar completely 30 days
Thanks for writing. It gives me a lot of pleasure and satisfaction to know that somebody has learned something that is good for their health from me. - Ellis
* * * In Praise of Ellis and Question about dose
I am new to this site and new to taking HGH. I am clinically adept
and have been involved in commercial pharmaceuticals, my daily work
is with physicians.
I researched 'very heavy' before I decided to try HGH. I also
searched very long for an MD who knows what she is talking about
with the therapy and co-therapies associated with this approach.
I have found a good one.
I have found this Ellis site and based on personal experience and a
strong knowledge base, this 'Ellis' is more knowledgable then 98%
of the MDs I have talked to. I have have met none that have Ellis'
clinical experience and insight into the basics and foundation of
Ellis is on target with almost everything I have read.
I am impressed.
I could have just read Ellis and known what I need. However my 6
months of research merely confirms Ellis as a strong source of
I do have a question about body size and dosage. I have read articles
that say body size affects dosage and articles that contradict the
Ellis, what is your theory on dosage versus body composition. I am
a 275 LB male and I am unclear if I should take my body size into
consideration. My MD says "not really..."
I wonder what you think? - Richard.
[Hello Richard... first of all... thanks for the nice words...
It is great for my "Legendary Ego"... (see above)
Anyways... I am "the man with the Legendary Ego..." which is not
such a bad thing to be, especially if you deserve it... and as you
read through my website you will see I have written some pretty
amazing pages, (all of which I learned or were developed here on
Rejuvenation) so I deserve it... And you just fed more fuel to
the fire, so.... Thanks for your nice words...
I happen to have to agree with you, because I also think I
know much more than 98% of the MD's I have bumped into... but it
is the other 2% that I have learned from... Many of them are
subscribed to Rejuvenation, and I have learned what I know from
these good doctors, and also from patients who have taught me from
I was just lucky to be the right man, in the right country, at the
right time. I read and write Spanish and English perfectly, I live
in Mexico where I am free to buy growth hormone and testosterone
and insulin and EPO without having to have a doctor's prescription,
and... I began to grow old just when growth hormone was beginning
to make some waves in the U.S.A., in 1998.
So I began to use growth hormone before most doctors in the U.S.A.
or Mexico were using or prescribing it...
And very soon, I had much more experience than most doctors.
But I didn't "jump" the doctors... I learned from them, and I
consulted with them, and I always had a lot of feedback from
good doctors. And... I found one, then two, then a third doctor
in Mexico, and so I have really never done anything too crazy,
like some doctors think I have.
Anyways... back to your question about dose and body size...
There are TWO ways to look at this, one is how most doctors
see it, and the other is "according to Ellis"... Most doctors
are very cautious not to recommend a dose that turns out to have
side effects, so they recommend "The Least Dose that will give
you good Benefits" And that is perhaps 1/2 iu per day to 1.0
iu per day. According to Dr. Hertoghe, who wrote "The Hormone
Solution" the dose is 1/2 iu per day.
I know doctors who DON'T TAKE GROWTH HORMONE themselves but they
PRESCRIBE growth hormone to their patients... they prescribe 1/2 iu
per day, because they have read Hertoghe and because they never tried
growth hormone, so they don't know what 1/2 iu feels like... 1/2 iu
per day is really next to nothing, although it eventually results in
benefits like nicer skin, fewer wrinkles, etc.
I say: "Anything is better than zero..." so I'm happy that they
prescribe 1/2 iu since they can't harm anybody with it, and it
results in benefits.
And the second way, "according to Ellis" is to take THE HIGHEST
DOSE that will NOT cause side effects IN THE LONG RUN...
The only problem is NOBODY KNOWS what that dose is.
But we DO KNOW what doses cause SIDE EFFECTS in the short run...
People who are HIV+ take 15 iu or 18 iu per day... I don't know
if they take it in two doses, but that is the dose that is
PRESCRIBED to them, for three months. After three months, they
stop taking HGH, because if they continue, they start getting
carpal tunnel syndrome, and if they continue, they start getting
acromegalia. I have had feedback from somebody taking 18 iu
per day who reported having "excruciating pain"... How can
anybody PRESCRIBE a dose that causes "excruciating pain"? Only
somebody who reads a book and sees that that is the dose for HIV+,
has no idea if it is or not, but he is a mechanic and that is
what the book says, so that is what he prescribes.
People who have problems with lack of cartilage in the knees
take 15 or 18 iu for a few weeks to make cartilage grow, and
they report feeling much better... But they stop taking that
dose, because after a while it results in acromegalia.
I know Bodybuilders who take 4 and 5 iu per day, who tell me
that they don't get any side effects... But they also don't take
blood tests... and they take these doses for a few months before
a competition, and then they don't take HGH anymore for a few
months until the next competition, as if once the competition
is over, there is no more need for HGH.
The interesting point is that they don't report any side effects
at a dose of 4 or 5 iu. for a few months.
The dose to make short children grow taller is about 4 iu per
day to 8 iu per day, depending on the age of the child and how
much he needs to grow. The YOUNGER they are, the more TIME
there is for them to grow taller, so there is not so much
urgency to use a dose of 8 iu per day, or several times per week.
But translating that dose to an adult dose by body weight, it
is equivalent to 8 iu to 16 iu in an adult (supposing that a
child of age 12 weighs about half as much as an adult age 25.)
But I don't want to take a dose that will stimulate my bones
to try to grow, so I think 8 iu might be too much for an adult
in the long run, even if growth hormone cost 1 penny per iu.
I HAVE SEEN a small child age 18 months grow nearly 5 inches in
one year with a dose that wouldn't make a boy of 18 grow even
half an inch... from which I conclude that BODY WEIGHT definitely
is important... "lean body mass" as I have seen it put.
So... maybe how much of that 275 lbs that you have is FAT, that
your doctor says does not really influence your dose... but if you
are 6'3" then I think your ideal dose is greater than if you are
5'3" because there is MORE OF YOU that has to get growth hormone.
You have a bigger circulatory system, and you have more blood and
more muscles and more bone in your body than if you were smaller.
So what is your dose? If you want, start with 1 iu for a few weeks
to keep your doctor happy... then experiment with a higher dose,
perhaps 1.5 iu for a while, then 2.0 iu for a while, and if the cost
is not a factor, I think maybe 2.5 or 3.0 iu will work well, because
of your "size".
In any case, take an IGF-1 blood test after 30 days, and see what
it says... shoot for somewhere between 350 and 500, or so...
Again, nobody really knows which is the best IGF-1 to shoot for.
According to Jay Olshansky, high IGF-1 might cause you to get cancer... but Jay Olshansky is not my favorite expert... in fact, he does not and has never
tried HGH, but he is quick to warn that it might cause cancer...
According to Dr. James Hughes, the ideal IGF-1 is about 350 to 500...
"According to Ellis" I agree with Dr. James Hughes. I try to keep
(and I have kept) my IGF-1 about 500 to 550 for more than 7 years
with very good results and no side effects... I am not sure if
IGF-1 of 700 might not be better, and I think it could be, but for
the moment I take 2 iu per day and I get IGF-1 about 550, and
I am 62 years old, and I look and feel much better than most
men my age.
By the way... I am 6'0" tall, and I weigh 175 lbs. and I take
2 iu per day... If growth hormone cost 1 penny per iu, I would
probably try 3 iu... In fact, I did take 3 iu per day for about
9 months, with no side effects, but I dropped the dose to 2 iu
because my IGF-1 came out above 700, so I decided to drop it
down a little, to be more in tune with the rest of the crowd.
So... I hope that gives you some perspective to decide your
dose of HGH...
But also... remember there are OTHER good hormones too, and you
should learn to use ALL OF THEM in harmony with each other...
All the hormones that I use, especially "the Big Four" are
dramatic in their effects and benefits. Actually, thyroid is also
dramatic... so call them "the Big Five"... but I only use four of
the big five, because MY DOSE OF THYROID is "zero"... that is to say:
it is my decision that my dose of thyroid is: zero. This is
different than: I don't take thyroid because I don't know about
("The Big Five" or "The Major Leagues" for men are: Growth Hormone,
Testosterone, EPO, Insulin, and thyroid. The Little Three or
"The Minor Leagues" are: DHEA, melatonin, and pregnenolone.
There are others, such as HCG, oxytocin, etc. which are interesting
but I still haven't found that they are very important for me
to use.... and of course progesterone and estrogen, for women,
are "Major Leagues" too.)
Thanks for writing. Three stars for this post. How can I
not give * * * to a post that starts off with Praise for
Ellis, and ends with a good discussion about dose? - Ellis]
From: Jason Williams (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008
To: Ellis Toussier (email@example.com)
I've been working with my doctor, and we are both using Testosterone, HGH, EPO, and Insulin therapies, all based on your information (we haven't yet explored the realm of thyroid yet). We have both been seeing WONDERFUL results. You don't know how much I want to thank you.
Almost everyone in my family is diabetic. I started reading everything you wrote about insulin therapy. I started on the insulin in 2005 (I think) and have had nothing but positive results. Now, my blood sugar stays between 75-85.
By using the Testosterone, I was able to lose 5% body fat. My skin looks better, it's firmer, and younger looking.
EPO increases my endurance. It allows me to work out and run for longer periods, which lets me stay in even better shape.
Finally, the HGH adds to all of the items above. It seems to work on every part of the body, from the skin, to the brain.
I purchased a video game a couple of years back, called "Brain Age". Now, I'm not trying to say that it is a very scientific process, but it uses simple problems (Math, reading, memory, etc.) to calculate a "Brain Age" for you. When I started using it, I averaged in the 55+ range. As the months went by, and I continued my practicing on the game, and kept up my medical regimen, I have finally gotten my "Brain Age" down to 22 years old. And that's not too bad for someone in their mid-thirties (chronologically speaking, of course).
I wanted to let you know what kind of difference all of this has made to my health. I am actually the person who turned my doctor on to your web site. He is a neurologist, so he is very well aware of the destructive nature of growing old. I am currently in the middle of my final year of college. In the fall, I will start Medical School. Hopefully, I too will be a neurologist in 6 years. I just have to reverse the aging process so that I can enjoy many, many years of being a doctor.
Thank you again.