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March 25, 2006

Dear Ellis,

"I want to express my feeling of deepest gratitude to you for teaching me about the significance of EPO. I learned about EPO first from you. Initially I did not pay much attention to it.

What happened to me about two years ago when I was 88, was sudden mysterious anemia (hematocrit 35-38%). My doctor did not worry about my anemia... He said it is mild and stable, there is nothing to worry about... but I felt terribly weak... I felt like I was dying.

Reading what you have written about EPO on Rejuvenation, I asked another doctor to write a prescription for EPO. The results are beyond description. A Miracle! Now I feel stronger... much stronger than I was 10 or more years ago. Now I think better than before, and I publish better books and papers than before.

I wish to express again my deepest feelings of gratitude towards you. I feel you saved my life and restored my high working and creative capacity.

With kindest regards,

Sebastian Shaumyan
Professor of Linguistics, Yale University

Sept 12, 2009

Hello again.

Its time to order more EPO. I'm having spectacular results with the first round. I'm feeling better on my runs then I have in years. I've never felt this good and had this much energy in my life... my running, breathing, speed. Life is just better! Thank you again so much for doing what you do. It's changing my life in a wonderful way!!! I'll be in touch soon.

(name withheld by request)

April 15, 2008

Dear Ellis,

Since you are an expert, I thought you might like to know this fact: If I raise my hematocrit to 53% I can put out 100 more watts with a heartrate 27 beats lower (in a 1 hour lactate threshold test) than if my hematocrit is 45% or less!

EPO is magic!

In closing, I want to take a moment and thank you for sharing your many years of research and answering ALL of my questions - and most of all, for always shipping on time and delivering the highest quality products! We are all too aware of the scams currently lurking on the Internet when it comes to anti-aging treatments, and I just wanted to thank you again for providing over three years of exemplary service.

(name withheld by request)

Nov. 13, 2011

Hello Ellis,

My name is J.C. I have been reading your amazing articles online. My hobby is running. But, lately, I won't be able to get out there and do workouts. I feel tired and out of energy. As a result, I stopped doing workouts for almost a month.

My current Hemoglobin count is 13 and Hematocrit is 42. They are extremely low for a runner. In the last 3 years, I have been doing almost everything to get healthy. I constantly run out of energy and get into many injuries.

(J.C. name withheld by request)

Dec. 27, 2011

My current hematocrit is 47.1   I used to take deep breaths when walking up to 3 floors. But now, I'm not doing that anymore. My sleep apnea is gone too, because I can sleep soundly at night. This helps me to stay on top of my job so I can get more things done everyday.

J.C. (name withheld by request)


Sept 25, 2011

I have been following you and reading your pages for 11 years. I wish I had done what you said then.

I want to update you on how I feel today, ONE DAY AFTER taking 6 vials of EPO for the first time in my life... (note: My hematocrit was 41% before I took EPO yesterday... I will take 2 vials every day until I have taken a total of 12 vials, then I'll stop and take a blood test 8 days later...)

I'm very much in tune with my running, and how my body feels, and the pace at which I run. Running for me has always warned me ahead of time if I'm getting sick or if I'm not eating right.

Yesterday I felt very bad on my run. I ran about 8 minutes-per-mile pace for 8 miles. This is after eating very good for many weeks.

Today, after taking 6 vials yesterday, I ran 8 miles in a 7:20 minutes-per-mile pace (which is much faster than 8 minutes per mile...).

I don't know if this is a result of yesterday's injections, but it was very fast compared to how I've been running for the last 7 weeks. And it felt good, too.

If tomorrow I can run the same or better, then I think the EPO is kicking in after only ONE DAY, and not after 8 days, as you wrote in your blog.

(name withheld by request)

March 25, 2006

Dear Ellis,

I LUV YA MAN !!!!!

This stuff is starting to "kick in".... After years of anemia, I can finally breathe!!!

I can't wait to inject the next two boxes and bring my hematocit up into the upper 40's.... I was sooo anemic before... remember, my hematocrit has been as low as 38%...

Thank You so much for what you're doing for me... when no one else cared...

(name withheld by request)



I know just how he feels. You are a lifesaver. Without EPO supplementation my hematocrit gets as low as 35. You can imagine how I feel.

(name withheld by request)

January 2, 2009

Ellis... I feel I am so lucky to have found you. There is only one man in the world who does so much good for me, and that's you... You care more about me than any doctor ever has!

My hematocrit was only 38% but my doctors felt is was OK even though I always felt bad... I always felt sleepy, and I often found myself short of breath.

But the worst was when I was out of breath... I felt like I was drowning. It was so bad that I would wake up from lack of oxygen, and I would have a hard time getting back to sleep.

My doctors ran thousands of dollars worth of heart, lung, and blood tests. They found my blood had lower than the normal range of red blood cells but they said it was probably "just normal for me".

"Well..." I asked "How do you know that normal for me is not 45% and that I am not anemic?" There was no good answer for that one: The fact is they didn't care one bit that I was suffocating...

With my hematocrit now up to about 47% I feel wonderful!!! I can go up a flight of stairs without being out of breath... I feel more energy... I can think better... and I sleep soundly...

YOU are my breath of fresh air, my pathway to good health... Thank you so much for caring about my health. May God bless you, as he has me to find you.

(name withheld by request)...


February 17, 2009

Just wanted to let you know... My hematocrit went from 36 to 40.6 after the 12 vials, which is right on what you described on your site.

You wrote me an email saying that I would start feeling an effect about a week after my first 12 but the truth is I started feeling A LOT better after 6 vials. I feel so good now and my life has totally changed.

Thank you so much for making your site and helping me out. You are a genius!!!!

(name withheld by request)...


March 23, 2010

I am up to 52% now. I feel amazing. I was feeling good when it was going over low 40's but now I am bouncing around and superactive. Great feeling. I had some years of depression before I saw your website, so thanks once again.

(name withheld by request)...

April 22, 2009

What is it like to go from 40% to 56% hematocrit?

What is it like to go from 40% to 56%?

The difference was, at first, startling. Before realizing I was anemic, doctors had consistently diagnosed me with athletically induced asthma. The inhalers and other medication they gave me, however, did nothing to alleviate the chest pain, shortness of breath, and severe fatigue I felt on a daily basis.

It wasn't until I got blood tests done and saw how low my hematocrit was, and how little concern my doctor had, that I seriously thought about EPO. It wasn't so much that they were unwilling to help me, as that they didn't perceive a necessity for me to be helped. They saw I had a hematocrit of 40 and thought "OK, he's normal". I thought: "I feel chronically exhausted, I have trouble breathing, and I have a hematocrit of 40... Maybe there's some connection?"

I have read that the top 1% of the population have hematocrits above 53% while only another 1-2 percent are below 42%. If I had naturally had a hematocrit of 54%, I would have been considered exceptional. However, with a hematocrit of 40% I was called "normal." I found that unacceptable.

Since starting on EPO I have noticed, first and foremost, that I have more energy for everyday activities. Walking up stairs doesn't seem to be a threateningly exhausting activity... going for walks with my girlfriend is now a pleasure rather than a struggle... I am generally much happier.

While I am a cyclist, the differences I've seen on the bike are actually NOT what the anti-doping people would have us all believe. I am not suddenly crushing all of my friends and winning every race. I have felt stronger, yes, but not super-human. Mostly the difference is simply that I am recovering day after day without feeling useless and exhausted after every bike ride. - Anonymous

June 29, 2009


I have two stories to share. First:

I was running while taking the EPO. My runs were much easier as the days progressed. I noticed after a week that my legs were hurting more. I timed one of my runs and I was surprised to see how much faster I was running. My poor legs didn't expect all the new energy. They're getting stronger and I am getting faster.


Last weekend I rode up to Big Sur and back with a couple of guys 20 years younger than me. We rode more than 10 hrs each day on a Motorcycle up the coast and into the mountains. They asked for the breaks, not me. ;-) I was good to go from 7 AM to 11 PM. But when I finally slept, I slept very soundly and awoke refreshed.

I am young again, and loving every minute of it. Thank you so much.


"I am ready for some more of your magic... It's 'magic' as in it makes me
feel alive inside and out. I find it also helps with mood, as in it makes me feel good all the time. So... It's Magic!" - anonymous, Sept. 22, 2009

What is EPO?

EPO ("EPO" is short for ErithroPOyetin) is a hormone that is made by the kidneys... The kidneys clean the blood, so the kidneys are the first to notice if there is not enough OXYGEN in the blood... Oxygen is carried by red blood cells. If there is not enough oxygen in the blood, the kidneys shoot out a little EPO, and that is an order to the bone marrow to produce some more RED BLOOD CELLS...

shortage of oxygen carrying red blood cells (RBC) causes Kidneys to release EPO, which sends a message to the bone marrow to produce new red blood cells.

A shortage of oxygen-carrying red blood cells (RBC), or a lack of oxygen
in the air due to height above sea level, causes kidneys to release
EPO, which sends a message to stem cells in the bone marrow to produce
new reticulocytes (very young red blood cells.)

Red blood cells carry hemoglobin, and hemoglobin carries OXYGEN... So... if you are LOW on red blood cells, you are also low on oxygen, and that is BAD... you feel TIRED... and you cannot THINK well, you forget things... and all the cells of your body suffer... some cells might even die... that is why anemia (low red blood cells) is associated with many other health problems, including cancer, heart attacks, senility, diseases of the nervous system, and many other degenerative diseases.

If you get your LOW RED BLOOD CELLS back up, you will FEEL MUCH BETTER.

The problem is: YOU LOSE RED BLOOD CELLS as you get Older... past age 50, your red blood cell count drops about 1/4 of 1%, per year... so by age 60, your red blood cells have dropped about 3% in TEN YEARS... you don't feel it happening because it is happening slowly, but you are slowing down.

Can you tell me how to use EPO?

In short: Check your hematocrit before you start (or if you have already checked recently, that is good enough...)

Take 1 vial of 4000 iu per day, subcutaneous or intravenous, until you have taken 12 vials. You can conceivably use 2 vials per day, because the dose of 50,000 iu exists, but be aware that every 3 vials will put up your hematocrit about 1% (ie, from 45% to 46%) You could also take 1 vial every other day, for 12 doses.

Increase in hemoglobin (Hb) depends on dose of EPO.  4000 iu = aprox 50 iu/kg

Increase in Hemoglobin (Hb) (shown here in severe anemia patients)
depends on dose. 4000 iu = aprox 50 iu/kg

After 12 vials, check your hematocrit, and do not exceed 60%. I do not exceed 55%, but I would raise to 60% if I wanted to go up Mt. Everest, for example.

Use a 1.0 ml insulin type syringe, and you can inject into a vein, or you can inject subcutaneously, into the fat around the belly, for example... anywhere... at any time...

I have been told that 50% hematocrit is the highest allowed for hematocrit in bicycle racers before a race, so I am certain 50% hematocrit is not dangerous. I keep my hematocrit at 55% which exists and is normal for about the top 1% of the population at sea level, or very common in the population that lives at about 4000 meters above sea level, for example in cities and towns in high mountains in South America or in Tibet.

After you have reached the level you want, it will last about 3 or 4 or 5 months, depending on the food you eat (low carb high protein is best, high carb low fat is worst) and your height and weight, and the kind of exercise you do: If you are sedentary red blood cells last longer... if you do very heavy exercise such as bicycle riding or marathon running, red blood cells are crushed faster so they need to be replaced sooner.

In any case, at about 3 or 4 months you check your hematocrit again... when you notice it is beginning to drop, you take ABOUT half as much dose as it took to get you UP: for example: it took twelve vials 12 vials and it lasted 3 months... that means it took = 4 vials per month... So you need ABOUT 2 vials per month, maybe more, maybe less, depending on your weight, height, what you eat, and how much you exercise.

EPO results in an increase in Red Blood Cells (RBC) and Hemoglobin (Hb).

EPO results in an increase in volume of blood and also an increase
in Red Blood Cells (RBC) which carry Hemoglobin (Hb)

May, 2008

Ellis: My hematocrit was at about 52- 54% for several years... I tested several times, and reached the conclusion that 1 vial per month was enough to sustain hematocrit. So I stopped testing but continued to inject 1 vial per month...

After 1 year, I tested again... Hematocrit came out 49.9% and Hemoglobin nearly 17%... That means that 1 vial per month was in fact not enough to sustain at 52% to 54%...

Seen by itself, 49.9% is not a bad level. In fact it is the level that is allowed for bicycle riders to compete without being disqualified for too high hematocrit. But I am not a bicycle rider, and I want my hematocrit to be 52% to 54%, not 50%.

So I took 6 vials of EPO which I expect will raise my hematocrit to about 52%. There is ZERO chance that my hematocrit will go above 60% or 70%, so I am not scared of taking 6 vials in one week.

Later I will test and make sure I am at about 52% or 53% then I will try to raise to 54% or 55%.

I do all this under the supervision of my doctor in Mexico. I do not advise that anybody should do what I do unless you are under the supervision of a doctor.

Call me by telephone if you have any questions. From the U.S. or Canada: 011 5255 5280 3644. From most other countries: 00 5255 5280 3644. Free calls only on Thursday from 4:00 to 5:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time. Any other time costs $2 per minute, payable after the call but only if you think it was worth it. - Ellis

How much EPO do I need initially?

Depending on what is your present hematocrit and how high you want to take it to, you need 2 boxes of EPO, initially... That will take you UP about 4% or 5%... for example, from 41% to 45% or 46%... If that is as high as you want to get to, then that is what you need initially. If you want to go up to 49% or 50% you will need another two boxes to put you up another 4% or 5%...

Then... your hematocrit will stay at that level for about 4 months... so about 4 months later you will need a small dose to maintain the level you are at... figure that whatever it took to get you UP for four months will be enough to KEEP YOU UP for twice as long, that is, for about 8 months.

If I buy 12 vials about how long would this take to use up?

The reason I ask is because I only really wanted to use it for about 3 weeks. Is this too short a time? What is the minimum length of time I could use EPO?

You have to understand something: EPO raises the amount of blood in your body, and it also raises the percentage of red blood cells which is in the blood... So you get a double benefit...

But once you have this new blood in your body, the new red blood cells STAY with you for a while... perhaps 3 or 4 or 5 months...

So you get the benefit for 24 hours a day... let's say for 4 months...

This is not like eating chicken that takes away your hunger when you eat the chicken, and the next day you are hungry again. It is more like eating chicken, which becomes muscle, which then stays with you for a few months after you stopped eating chicken.

So there is no way you can use EPO for "only about 3 weeks..."

And after the 4 months, it becomes very cheap to keep the red blood cell level high, which is why I recommend 4 boxes instead of 2...

2 boxes to go UP... 2 boxes to STAY UP a long time... - Ellis Toussier

My hemoglobin is not shown as a percentage on the blood test results. It is shown as 14 g/dl. What is this equivalent to in percentage?

14 g/dl is exactly 14%. "g/dl" means "grams per deci-liter"... one liter is 1000 grams, so one deci-liter is one tenth of 1000, or 100 grams. So "14 g/dl" means "14 grams per 100 grams" or "14 per cent"

In your opinion, is EPO safer than taking testosterone?

Testosterone is not "dangerous"... Testosterone has some side effects, but they are no big deal, and you can overcome them without a problem. I have used testosterone for nearly 10 years and I have had some of the expected side effect, (shrinking of the testicles...) but it is no big deal... I accept smaller testicles in exchange for better health.

No matter what you read about it, EPO is entirely without any bad side effects, as long as you don't overdose... and it is nearly impossible to overdose... not even intentionally... You would have to have about 100 vials of EPO on hand, even if you would want to suicide with EPO.

Would EPO work better than taking testosterone for athletic performance?

They are very different... EPO raises your red blood cells so you have more oxygen running through your veins... so you don't get tired easily... you can think well... you feel well...

Testosterone gives you brute strength, and it also makes you sexually potent, and it makes your body more attractive.

Would it be okay in your opinion to use both testosterone and EPO in conjunction with each other?

Absolutely yes... that is the best way to use them...

Or actually all three HGH, EPO and Testosterone?

Absolutely yes... actually all three... actually all four... you should also use insulin... But I am not going to blow your mind yet, insisting about insulin.


Would you say some, many, or a lot of athletes use EPO?

I have been told by an athlete in Mexico that he thinks that EVERY SINGLE BICYCLE RIDER in the top 100 in the world is using EPO, or else they would not be in the top 100 in the world.

I don't know if that is true or not, but that is what somebody who thinks he knows told me.

But MOST bicycle riders in the world are NOT IN THE TOP 100, so even if the top 100 are taking EPO, hundreds of thousands of bicycle riders are NOT taking EPO.

Is it safe to keep my hematocrit elevated for long periods of time?

I have kept my hematocrit above 50% non-stop, 365 days per year, for nearly 10 years. I think it is absolutely safe. I have not had any problem at all, on the contrary I have been extra healthy.

Do I need to take iron in the begining when I am taking large quantities of EPO?

I have never taken supplemental iron... Somebody wrote that he did, but I have never taken it... and I think EPO works well enough without supplemental iron... but... I am not an athlete... So maybe for "top top" performance it might make a difference, especially if I would be iron deficient... You can take a blood test and check for "ferritin" and it if is within normal ranges, I would leave iron alone.

Are there any precautions I need to take while begining EPO, such as monitoring how I feel or if I have taken too much?

You "monitor" hematocrit and hemoglobin... but this is like flying an airplane at 40,000 feet altitude and you "monitor" just to make sure you are not flying under 2000 feet by mistake... IT IS VERY UNLIKELY (eg, "impossible") that any test you monitor would show that you are above 70% hematocrit, because you don't have enough EPO to get it up so high.

How can I consult with you? By telephone or by email?

However you prefer. By telephone, call me by Skype:      ellistoussier     anytime, if I can answer I will answer right away. If I cannot, we will eventually catch each other.

My hemoglobin is below average. My hematocrit is about 42%. Would it be wise for me to use EPO which would thicken my blood, given that I had a 5-way bypass in 2001, and a stent in 2004? I am afraid that this will increase my risk of stroke/heart attack.

A risk of stroke or heart attack increases in persons with "thick blood" caused by smoking cigarrettes... they have destroyed their lungs, so their lungs do not absorb oxygen as well as they should... so their blood is with low oxygen... the kidneys read that there is too little oxygen, so they throw out some EPO in order to command the bone marrow to make more red blood cells... Therefore hematocrit (the percentage of blood which is red blood cells) rises... When they have above 70% red blood cells, they have more heart attacks and more strokes, because their blood is very thick... This does not happen to everybody who has above 70% but probably it happens to everybody who has above 80%... so somewhere between 70% and 80% is the DEATH ZONE...

But your red blood cells are at about 42% of blood volume. You probably feel tired easily. You probably feel faint, you forget things, you sometimes feel you are in a fog...

So... It is a tradeoff between feeling better and raising your red blood cells which thickens your blood and might cause a heart attack or a stroke.

So you have to think: AT WHAT POINT is there a greatly increased risk of a heart attack or a stroke? We know heart attacks and strokes increase above 70% hematocrit... and the "certain death" zone is probably above 80%...

So... there is probably not much increase in risk from 42% to 43% because your blood is THINNER THAN NORMAL... probably not to 44%... probably not to 45%... And 45% is "Average for the Population"...

You have to decide together with your doctors if you want to live tired and in a fog, with less risk of a heart attack, or if it is worth it to live with more energy, and almost no increase in risk, raise your hematocrit from 42% to 45%.

There is probably little risk for somebody else at 60% but given your previous health problems I think you should be happy with around 45%...

A former elite-pro cyclist has recently been quoted as saying that EPO is 20 times more effective injected intravenously. Do you think it's really that much stronger?

I have injected EPO intravenously and also sub-cutaneously... I don't think intravenous is 20 times stronger... I don't even think it is 2 times stronger... but it might be 20% stronger, that is: I get a bit more red blood cells when I inject intravenously than when I inject sub-cutaneous.
However... to inject intravenously is more complicated. It takes somebody else to inject into me, because I can't inject into my own arm veins... I don't like to inject into my leg veins, although I saw a doctor inject into his leg veins... but it gives me "the creeps" to inject into my leg veins...
And... the COST of EPO for maintainance is not too much, (about $60 per month) and I only take a dose every three or four weeks... so it is so much easier to just inject sub-cutaneously than intravenous, that I have not injected intravenously for a few years already.

The same Pro-cyclist says in the same article that EPO is entirely undetectable only a few hours after it has been injected. Is that true?

That is why athletes get into trouble: because they learn from other athletes, instead of from doctors. I am not a doctor, but I don't learn from athletes, I learn from doctors and on myself, and also from the feedback I get from thousands of doctors and patients and athletes.

EPO is undetectable a few hours after it has been injected, but it would be detectable a day or two after it has been injected because there would be an unusually high number of immature red blood cells.

It is undetectable 8 days after being injected, when the immature red blood cells are now mature red blood cells.

Can you get Aranesp EPO?

No, I can't get Aranesp EPO. Aranesp is a "second generation" EPO. The compound was called "novel erythropoiesis stimulating protein" or NESP. As such, it is not EPO, it is similar to EPO.

Perhaps it is better than first generation EPO, which was identical to human EPO... but it is different than human EPO so it is detectable in blood tests. There are other EPO's that are detectable because the manufacturer purposely puts in "markers" so that it can be detected.

Happy to say, I am in Mexico and my supplier only makes very old-fashioned EPO: the kind that is undetectable because it is identical to human EPO... it works perfectly well to increase red blood cells... it is not detectable, and it does not have markers.

For how long can you safely keep your hematocrit at a "high" level?

Your hematocrit can STAY at a safe level for as long as you want it to stay there, because "safe" means: "safe". I have kept MY hematocrit at between 52% and 55% which is "safe" since I began to use EPO, in 2002...

The entire population that lives in La Paz, Bolivia has hematocrit between 55% and 60%, and they thrive very well, and they have healthy little babies, and they play football, and they run, and bicycle, and all is well with hematocrit long term above 55% to 60%.

And I intend to keep my own hematocrit above 50% until I forget that I don't want to forget to take my EPO!

How often do you check your hematocrit?

I inject one, sometimes two vials per month, at the beginning of every month, for maintainance... and I check my hematocrit once a year. I used to check it more often when I was starting, but once I got it to where I wanted, and I learned the maintainance dose I needed to keep it there, I learned that it is pretty stable.

My hematocrit is now 53% and it has been between 52% and 55% for several years... my hemoglobin is a little over 17%... PERFECT for Superman.

Which syringe should I use? Where on my body should I inject? At what time of the day should I inject? Should I inject intravenously or should I inject sub-cutaneously?

You should use a 1.0 ml insulin-type syringe. You can inject into a vein on your arms or legs, or you can inject subcutaneously into fat on your leg, or your stomach... into fat almost anywhere... You can inject at anytime, before or after a meal, anytime of the day. It is probably a little better "bang for the buck" if you inject intravenously... but I get the results I need by injecting subcutaneously and I don't need help to do it, it is a lot easier to inject subcutaneously.

Can you describe what it is like to be on EPO?

Pretend you are a fish, swimming in the ocean...

You are swimming and suddenly you come to a place where there is a lot of pollution and low oxygen content in the water... so you struggle to swim through the water, but you get tired and you are gasping for breath...

Then... you come out of that pollution and you feel MUCH BETTER again...

You continue to swim when suddenly you come to "An Octopus's Garden"... Here there is 20% MORE OXYGEN in the water... It is EASY for you to breathe and to swim here.

In fact it is so easy that you can swim fast and you do several backflips and summersaults and you feel this feeling of happiness, because this is how it used to be when you were younger, everything is easy for you to do again, you don't get tired easily and you forget that you ever get tired. - Ellis

I just received my blood work back and it says I have a 13.5 Hemoglobin and a 41.1 HCT level. Then it tells me that normal levels for Hemoglobin is 11.0 - 15.0 and that I am fine, and for HCT normal levels are 35.0 - 46.0 and therefore I am normal here too.

Do different labs have different ranges and levels, because one of the letters I read on your page was from someone with very simular numbers as mine and you were saying he was low sick.

"According to Ellis" you are "low sick"... according to doctors, it is "normal" to have a hematocrit between 35 and 45% so they don't stop to think if 35% is any better than 45%... (and by the way: Superman's hematocrit is about 52% to 54%)

It is "normal" for many people to be "low sick" so most doctors don't stop to think what is "optimal" or if there is anything they should or could do about it. Plus, they don't want to stick their necks out. If they prescribe EPO, other doctors might criticize them. So it is safer to tell you to go home and don't bother them anymore.

It is "normal" for people to die at age 75, so if you die at age 74 or 75, doctors are happy that they have done a good job.

If you count 1000 graves in a graveyard, and you check what the person died of, about 500 persons 50% died of a heart attack or stroke. So it is "normal" to die of a heart attack or stroke.

So... which do you want to be? Do you want to be "normal" and live sick and die at age 75, or do you want to be "abnormal" and live to age 100 in a young body, with your mind intact if possible?

You are like a person who is drowning, and I have just thrown you a lifeline... I suggest you should grab it and don't let go. I'm not kidding, you should try to Stay with Ellis.

My hematocrit is 37%. I use an altitude tent to raise my hematocrit... Can I use an altitude tent and also benefit from EPO?

(note: an "altitude tent" is a tent used to simulate high altitudes with lower oxygen. Theoretically this will cause an increase of red blood cells if your kidneys will release some natural EPO...)

Your hematocrit is 37% which means that you are anemic, by definition. (less than 40% is anemia, by definition...) Your body is struggling to get enough oxygen, and you are lowering the oxygen that you breathe in the hope that this will help you... You cannot get good results from doing something that is intrinsically bad for you. In my opinion you should not be using an altitude tent to raise your hematocrit because you are anemic so you are harming your body more. You are depriving your body of some oxygen and your body is already suffering from a deprivation of oxygen.

Yes, you can benefit from EPO... If you were not anemic I would say Yes, you can use an altitude tent and also benefit from EPO... but you are anemic so, No, you should not use an altitude tent and also EPO, because the amount of oxygen running through your veins is already very low so you should not be using an altitude tent at all...

Let's be honest, a lot of these athletes who are top distance runners are doing what is in my opinion beyond human capacity. Some are suspected of using EPO. Since this is illegal in sports, is there any other product you are aware of that helps specifically an athlete like me a runner (distance) that helps to become stronger or maybe help with oxygen transport.

I understand your frustration... it is the same as for all athletes, who must decide whether to break a bad rule and improve their body to be able to compete, or not break a bad rule and to know without doubt that you will lose, because you have chosen to obey a bad rule which says you cannot improve your body health...

Is it "illegal in sports" to eat better than average because it will make your body strong and healthy? Then why is it "illegal in sports" to give your cells the "hormones" they need to stay well and healthy and strong?

And since it is healthy for their body when used correctly, and very difficult to detect the use of EPO or Growth Hormone or some testosterones, etc, how many top athletes do you think choose to keep their body healthy?

I have been told by some athletes that 100% of all top athletes in any sport (eg, those who win Olympic medals) take some hormones. And I think most of them take them incorrectly... which is why some of them get into trouble. That is, every single one of them is "illegal in sports" and most of them are learning in gymnasiums instead of from their doctors... Wouldn't it make sense for all of them to be able to keep their body healthy "legally" under the supervision of a doctor?

But they can't, because it is "illegal in sports". You can SMOKE TOBACCO and DRINK ALCOHOL, and that is "legal in sports" (and all top athletes avoid smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol) but you can't replace hormones, which is good for your health.

No, there is no other product that is legal in sports that I am aware of that will raise your capacity to process oxygen. And if they ever find one, it will immediately be forbidden in sports. Testosterone will also raise your red blood cells a little bit, but it is also forbidden in sports. Anything that helps your body to be better so you can run faster or jump further is forbidden in sports. You are expected not to intervene with any medicine or technology and you should allow your body to deteriorate at its expected rate of decline. Which means you should allow your body to have a lifespan of about 75 to 78 years.

There are hermetically sealed tents where they REMOVE oxygen from the air you breathe, thus simulating that you are going UP in altitude... that is LEGAL IN SPORTS, but ridiculous in practice, and even BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH... You can SMOKE TOBACCO which will damage your lungs and put up your red blood cells... but it is BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH.

Can you please tell me how can BREATHING LESS OXYGEN or SMOKING CIGARRETTES be allowed in sports when it is intrinsically BAD for you, but putting up your red blood cells with the hormone that is natural to our body is ILLEGAL IN SPORTS? I dunno. That is how upside down the rules are. What is bad (cigarrettes and alcohol) is allowed, and what is good for your health is against the rules.

In any case: You can increase your hematocrit in an UNHEALTHY manner, and that is LEGAL in sports; but you cannot raise your hematocrit in a HEALTHY manner because that is ILLEGAL in sports.

Fortunately I am not an athlete, so I will increase my hematocrit with EPO which is a hormone that is natural to my body and which does not cause me damage like depriving my body of oxygen does, or smoking cigarrettes which is terrible for my lungs and my health.

You can fix your car and tune the engine and change ball bearings and put in new spark plugs and use high octane fuel, but you are not supposed to fine tune your body with anything except with food and vitamins and exercise. In the future, they might forbid you to use vitamins too... that is actually very close to happening, at the United Nations level.

You can "legally" (according to sports) go live on top of a very high mountain for a few weeks... but I suggest you find a very high one that is 4500 meters high or more, if you want to get good results... You can train on top of El Nevado de Toluca near Mexico City, which is 4500 meters high... or you can train in some places near La Paz, Bolivia, which are 4500 meters or higher... Or you can go to the Himalayas and train there...

But Oxygen deprivation is bad for your health... it will stimulate your body to produce more EPO to raise your red blood cells, which is good for your health, but your body will suffer because you are denying it oxygen while you force it to make more EPO... so it is bad for your health.

So according to the Sports rules, the only way you can get a good end result is if you do something that is bad for your health temporarily... but if you do something that is good for your health without first doing something that is bad for your health, it is forbidden.

It makes sense, doesn't it? No? It doesn't? You mean, its crazy? Like an Alice-in-Wonderland upside down world, where good is bad and bad is good???

Yes, that is exactly what it is like... It doesn't make any sense, but that is how it is in most of the world. You can smoke tobacco with no problem, and you can drink alcohol and get drunk all you want to, but please don't use growth hormone or EPO or Testosterone because they are forbidden for athletes, because they are TOO GOOD for you.

You can try vitamins, and you can try eating good food, both of which are also good for you... but neither one will increase the number of red blood cells, which is the only way that oxygen gets to every cell of your body.

I am not an athlete. I am an Old Man (b. 1945) in excellent health who wants to remain in excellent health body and mind. I use EPO for my good physical and mental health, and to stay in good physical and mental health... It is legal for me to use it, because it is a legal medicine... it is not cocaine or heroine, etc. It is a hormone, natural to my body, and it is ultimately very good for my body to have the right amount of EPO at the right time.

Since it is forbidden according to the rules for me to run in the Olympics or in sports events, I don't run in the Olympics or in sports events... but I still run, because it is very good for my health.

I don't compete in events where they forbid persons to be so healthy as I am, which they say is "cheating"... but my health is much more important to me than to win or lose in a sports event. I win the only contest that is important to me, which is to be in super good health, because my body is in fact in super good health because I don't have to try to obey a rule which would force me to purposely allow my body to deteriorate... that is bad for my health. To me it makes more sense to win the health contest, and not to compete in sports.

I could give you a dissertation on the questions you ask, but I don't have time to write more. If you want to consult with me by telephone, I give free consultation on Thursday from 4:00 to 5:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time. Any other time costs $2 per minute, which you can pay me however you like, and pay only if you think it was worth it. But if you want to continue to consult with me I ask for 12 sessions at least, so that you will get RESULTS, because that is what is important.

I have read that EPO is dangerous because it can thicken our blood which can cause a heart attack. What do you say to that?

Blood "thickens"... but it also "thins"... you don't want it to be too thick, and you don't want it to be too thin. So, which is which?

It is not enough for doctors to tell you: "don't use EPO because your blood will thicken and you will get a heart attack." They should tell you when does your blood thicken? At what point is it "thick"? 45%? (because it is "average") No. 50%? No. (because it is allowed for bicycle races) 55? No. (because it exists in 1% of the population, and in cities high in the Andes or Himalaya mountains, all over the world.)

If your blood is too thin, then you want it to thicken.

And if your blood is well enough, you might still want it to thicken it some more, so that you have more oxygen and you feel even better... But what is "even better" and not "dangerous"? Because I agree, I do not want to "feel better" and then have a heart attack...

So the question really is: how thick can you get your blood without having a heart attack?

That is what the sites or the doctors who tell you about the danger of EPO never discuss. They only say that it might cause a heart attack. Be careful, do not go out into the street because a meteor might fall from the sky and kill you.

And I agree, it might cause a heart attack if it is "too thick" but this is like saying that "climbing up a mountain to the top of Mount Everest might cause you to die from lack of oxygen..."

But at what height does lack of oxygen cause you to die from lack of oxygen? Can you climb to 2000 meters? To 4000 meters? To 6000 meters? To 8000 meters? Can you climb to the top of Mount Everest?

I adjust my blood to about 4000 meters... My red blood cell count ("hematocrit") is at about the level that people have who live in La Paz Bolivia, or in small towns in the Himalayas, near the base of Mount Everest...

I am not adjusted to 6000 meters which is where Base 1 of Mount Everest is located. People who climb Mount Everest first go to Base 1 before they climb Everest and they stay there until they are adjusted to 6000 meters altitude. Some of them never adjust enough, and they never climb Everest because they are not ready to. But curiously, they don't check their red blood cells, I think because the matter of "hematocrit" is not an issue among them.

So... when they tell you that EPO is dangerous because it thickens your blood and it might cause a heart attack, they should also tell you: at what thickness of blood is a heart attack caused?

And it is higher than 70%... it is not 70%... it is at some point higher than 70%... How do I know that it is not 70%? Because there are a lot of people who are sick with emphyzema, and not all of them die, and these people have hematocrit 70% and higher... at some point they die.

But I don't even come close to 70%, and I don't recommend that anybody should raise hematocrit anywhere close to 70%. 70% represents the edge of the cliff for me, and I want to stay away and I do stay away from the edge of the cliff.

But there is plenty of room for improvement between 45% and 70% to get better than 45% and less than 70%. And it is impossible to accidentally raise red blood cells to 70% or above, when each dose raises your red blood cell by 1/3 of one point... You cannot raise hematocrit to 70% or higher with 12 or 24 small doses of EPO. And I don't recommend EPO as a way to suicide. It is easier and less costly and much faster to suicide by other means.

Might 12 vials raise hematocrit to a dangerous level?

Whatever your hematocrit is right now, 12 vials will probably raise it about 4% or 5% from where it is now... that is, if you have 45% now, it would go to about 49% or 50%... If your hematocrit right now is about 66%, then it would go to about 70%, which "according to Ellis" is "much too high."

There is no way you can get to "unsafe" territory (ie, above 70% hematocrit) with 12 vials of 4000 iu unless you would have about 65% to begin with...

And the only way you would have 65% right now is if you smoke cigarettes heavily and you have ephyzema, in which case raising your hematocrit is definitely not indicated for you.

But... since you are writing to me, I will GUESS that your hematocrit right now is about 45%, give or take a point or two. So: No... I don't see any way that 12 vials can raise your hematocrit above 70%.

For how long will the benefit of 2 boxes of EPO last me?

EPO makes new red blood cells, and then the new red blood cells stay in your body until they are damaged or get old, at which point they are recycled out of your body. That takes an AVERAGE of 4 months, but it might be more, and it might be less, depending on HOW MUCH AND HOW FAST YOU DAMAGE THEM, both because of the sports you practice and also because of the food you eat.

In MY case... I think red blood cells last longer than 4 months, because I don't do sports that damage red blood cells, like marathon running and long distance bicycle riding... and I eat very low carb.

So my MAINTAINANCE DOSE to keep red blood cells at about 54% is only ONE vial PER MONTH, which makes me think that red blood cells last about 6 months in MY body.

I have been informed by high performance athletes that THEIR hematocrit starts to go DOWN in 6 to 8 weeks, so they need to maintain with much more than 1 vial per month.

Which blood tests should I take before I take EPO?

You need to know "hematocrit" and "hemoglobin". "Average" hematocrit is about 45% and hemoglobin about 15% or 14.8%, about there... Bicycle riders are tested and allowed to run long distance races if their hematocrit is at most 50%, so I consider 50% hematocrit is a very safe hematocrit. My own hematocrit has been between 52% and 55% since I began to use EPO in 2002.

You should also test for iron. Iron carries oxygen so it is good, but it also oxidizes, so too much iron is bad. There are two tests for iron. One is the "transferrin saturation," or T-SAT test. Your score should be at least 20% and not more than 50%. The other test is "serum ferritin" (SF) test, your score should be between 200 ng/mL and not more than 800 ng/mL.

How do they detect if you used EPO? I guess it shows in your hematocrit, and not some other way?

For a few days after you inject EPO, there is an overabundance of immature red blood cells... however, after 6 or 7 days, those immature red blood cells are already mature, and they are indistinguishable from any other mature red blood cell, so after 7 days they can't detect if you used EPO (unless the EPO had a marker, which some of them do...) At that point they disqualify, for that race only, athletes with a hematocrit above 50% "for your safety"...

I assume as long as you are below that 50% mark you are okay.

I have read that they allow some athletes to be a bit higher, because those athletes have convinced them that they have "natural" levels higher than 50%... you see, 1% of the population actually has hematocrit up to 54% or 55%... In studies made of athletes whose hematocrit was known, before EPO existed, about 10% had hematocrit above 50%... So they would have to disqualify the best athletes if they would enforce the 50% limit strictly... so they don't enforce it strictly for the top top athletes... but they keep them "honest"...

Helicopter pilots who spend a lot of time at high altitude not in pressurized cabins, have hematocrit above 50%...

My aunt is in her 70's and in relatively good health, but she is having some short term memory problems. It is not Alzheimer's or dementia, as we've had her tested: MRI etc. I hope that taking HGH and EPO will help, along with regular exercise, good diet etc. I have tried custom made hormone creams for her but I don't see much of an improvement. My aunt's blood test results:

HGB 12.5
HCT 38.3
PLT 270

Please do let me know your suggestions for EPO and/or HGH so I know how to move forward. Thanks in advance.

I am 100% sure of what I am saying: your AUNT is suffering from LACK OF OXYGEN TO THE BRAIN, and this is causing her memory loss and also fatigue...

That is the problem... and the solution is to RAISE her oxygen to the brain...

But if you ask a doctor, he might say her hematocrit and hemoglobin are "within normal range" and his books don't know what I am talking about... so he might be reluctant to prescribe EPO.

But her hematocrit and hemoglobin show that she has ANEMIA BY DEFINITION, and the way to change the definition is to RAISE HER RED BLOOD COUNT.

So please find a doctor who will prescribe EPO to her, or come to Mexico and you will find a doctor who will prescribe it to her here... I assure you that if she raises hematocrit to 45% and hemoglobin to about 15% she will feel much better and she will be a different person in 30 days...

And if she takes growth hormone also, she will want to go dancing!

Can you please tell me what are the side effects of EPO?

You get smarter... You can think and create better because your brain is full of oxygen, so it has whatever oxygen it needs... You are more creative, and you feel better... You will have more energy.

That is the only side effect you will have if you keep hematocrit at a natural and high level.

How do I know this is true? Because I have kept my hematocrit at between 52% and 55% since the year 2003. Instead of declining mentally, I have been more productive and creative than ever... And also, I know that people who have LOW hematocrit have trouble to remember, to learn, bad grades in school, etc... so... this is the OPPOSITE end of the bell curve, it is logical to believe that a CHESS PLAYER who has a higher hematocrit would have more success than a CHESS PLAYER who has a LOW hematocrit.

There are no "bad" side effects of using EPO if you do not put your hematocrit up above 70%, which you would have to be insane to do, and you cannot get it there "accidentally"... Think about it: It takes 3 vials to raise your hematocrit UP by 1%... You inject ONE vial per day... Even if you would make a mistake and take THREE vials per day for 8 days before you finally realized your mistake, you would only raise your hematocrit from 45% to 53%... You would have to take 3 vials mistakenly for 25 days in a row to get your hematocrit up to 70%... Obviously, you can't do it if you only have 12 vials.

So... disregard all you read about getting your blood so thick that you might have a heart attack. Whoever writes those articles doesn't know how EPO works, and is clueless about what red blood cell level is actually dangerous.

I was in a city this past weekend at an altitude of about 2000 feet and did some hills training and I felt terrible compared to how I feel in the sea level city that I live in. I can imagine how hard 5000 ft. or higher would be like..

6000 meters is barely base camp 1, to climb Mt. Everest... 7000 meters is quite a bit worse... and 8000 meters is even worse...

Somebody who used EPO went up a 7000 meter mountain in India... He told me that everybody else in the group arrived two or three weeks before he did, to get "acclimatized"... But except for him, everybody else had trouble walking and climbing at high altitude...

Of course, his hematocrit was about 50% or higher, and the others were probably all about 45% or a bit higher.

. There are 12 vials, and since you said this was a 3-4 month supply is it safe to assume I will be using 1 vial every 8 days?

No. You have to understand how it works: EPO will cause your bones to make more red blood cells... the red blood cells will last 90 to 120 days, then they are recycled out of the body by the kidneys (I think). It takes 6 days for the new red blood cells to mature... so...

Supposing that you have 12 vials of 4000 iu each... you will take three vials per week, for 4 weeks... and your red blood cells will go up 6 days after each shot, but altogether you will get about 4% or 5% increase in hematocrit, ie, from 42% to 46% or 47%, or from 39% to 44%, etc. Then it will remain that high for about 4 months.

Then it starts to go down, as the red blood cells are recycled out of your blood. You can maintain the high level with about half as much EPO spaced out over the next 90 days, so instead of three times per week it becomes MORE OR LESS one every week, or one every two weeks. You will know where and how to do this by monitoring your blood hematocrit and/or hemoglobin levels.

One of the sheets you sent said .4 ml for every 2-3 days (which would bring it to about this amount as well)

Take one vial of 4000 iu on Monday, one on Wednesday, and one on Friday or Saturday, etc, until you finish the 12 vials.

I was under the impression that this was something that needed to be used daily (or even 2-3 times a day) but this sheet implies that it can be used every 2nd or 3rd day. Which is correct?

Every 2nd or 3rd day is correct.

Does it really matter?

I think it does not really matter... you could take it every day if you wanted to, because some people take 10,000 iu in one shot (I know, because the dosage exists.) But I have taken it 3 times a week, as it reads on the instruction sheet, and I have taken a dose of 4000 iu every day, and I have taken a dose of 8000 iu every day for a few days... and they all work well, without a problem.

But the instruction sheet says to take one dose every other day. That is the "official" doctor way to do it, unless you are anemic, in which case the official doctor way is to take a dose of 10,000 per day.

I recommend that you should do what doctors do, so you won't get into trouble.

What is your suggestion as to when to take the injections and how often?

If you are not in a hurry, take it as it says, 3 times per week, any time of day. If you are in a hurry, you can surely take it everyday, with no problem at all.

The sheet also says something about the injection being given subcutaneously (between the skin and muscle). I thought it was to be placed straight into the blood stream. Which is correct?

Either way is correct, according to the instructions. However, if you take it by intravenous injection I THINK it is probably more effective. But... it is easier to take it sub-cutaneously. I take it sub-cutaneously..

if 2 vials per month will maintain levels, will 4 per month give better results?


You want your hematocrit to STAY at a certain level, you don't want it to continue to RISE UP higher than you had it... so if (for example) 2 vials keeps your hematocrit at 50%, 4 vials might raise it to 50.5%, and the next month to 51%, and the next month to 51.5%, etc... in other words, it will be rising slowly and in a few months it will be higher than where you want it to be.

BUT... it takes MORE EPO to maintain hematocrit in some people than in others, and the way to find out what is YOUR maintenance dose, you have to monitor your red blood cells over a long period of time.

For example, a BIG person needs more...

People who EAT a lot of carbohydrates damage more good red blood cells by glucose...

And some types of activities CRUSH more red blood cells, so the red blood cell is recycled out of the body sooner... for example, RUNNERS or BICYCLE RIDERS need more EPO for maintenance dose than persons whose activities don't crush red blood cells, like walking, weight lifting, swimming, etc.

For example, I am medium size for a male (175 lbs), I eat very low carbs, and I don't run marathons or ride bicycle long distances... My maintenance dose is an incredibly low ONE vial every month or five weeks! And I know persons whose maintenance dose is 2 or 3 vials per month.

Once you are at, say, 54% how do you keep at the desired level (maintance dosage)? Do you have to come off for a period of time or continue constantly?

Once you get to 54%, for example, you would stay at that level for several months... You should take a blood test about month 3 or 4, and when you notice that it has fallen a bit, let us suppose to 52%, then you take about 1 or 2 vials of 4000 iu, wait 10 days, and then take another blood test and see what happened.

In theory, every 3 vials will put you UP about 1 point, but I have found that in fact with 1 vial every three or four weeks I balance at or near 54%... the blood test itself has a bit of error, so you have to play it by ear... it is a matter of testing and seeing what exactly happens, and then adjusting it slowly.

What I do not want to see is hematocrit at or above 60%, although 60% itself is not dangerous either... but I want to stay away from the edge of the cliff... If I aim for 54% I might get to 55% but I will never get to 60% accidentally... and if I do, I will still have a safety cushion to 70%... but I would not go to 60% (unless I would want to climb to the top of Mount Everest... which I will never want to do...) because it is not necessary to go to 60%... at 55% I already feel like Superman. - Ellis Toussier

What is the shelf life of the product?

Right now as I write, I have boxes of EPO that have an expiration date 16 months into the future... and it surely lasts a year or two or three after that. (I have used "old" EPO, with no problem)

It looks like I need to mix the solution into the bottle with the powder by using a syringe (to pump the clear liquid into it). I'm just making sure that this is the way it needs to be done.

Yes, that is how it is done. One vial contains the powder, one vial contains the water... suck up the water (1 c.c.) into a syringe and put it into the vial with the powder... It takes a few minutes to dissolve completely, and once it is dissolved, it is a crystal clear liquid.

There is also EPO that comes pre-mixed.

About how long after it is mixed can you begin to use it, and for how long will it keep well in a refrigerator?

Use it soon after you have mixed it. Mix one vial and inject the entire vial in one sub-cutaneous or intravenous injection. You should never have a mixed vial that is wholly or partially used, so there is no reason to want to know if it keeps well in a refrigerator after it is mixed... but I am sure it probably does keep well.

Should I shake the vial after I mix it?

No, from experience with growth hormone I never shake the vials, and it dissolves anyways... Roll it around gently, let the water run over the sides of the vial, and the stopper, tip it around, roll it around, but don't shake it... it will dissolve without a problem. EPO doesn't dissolve as quickly as growth hormone, but it dissolves in a short while.

How high should I get my hematocrit? At what point is it dangerous?

According to the charts that I have put up here, 45% hematocrit is AVERAGE and 5% of the population has 49% or above; and about 1% of the population has about 53%, or 54%. So 54% is probably the highest known safe limit. In cities at very high altitudes, such as La Paz, Bolivia, or some towns in the Himalayas, the population has hematocrit of about 60%, with no ill effects, so this is probably safe too, but don't try to find out which is the highest safe hematocrit... I always want to stay below 55%.

My hematocrit is 53% right now, and I am fine right where it is. I have read that Bicycle Federations disqualify a bicycle racer for their own safety if their hematocrit is above 50% (or if hemoglobin is 17% or higher...) But that also has a safety margin built in, because hematocrit will rise during the race as the bicycle racer loses water.

Hello Ellis, my hct.level has gone up since 11/15/03.@ 43% to 45.3% currently. I have one last 4000 iu. injection today and will try to test again in two weeks time. do you think it will still rise even though I will not inject anymore for a week or two?

It will rise, but you may not get the answer on the lab blood test, because you can EXPECT only a 1/3% rise from one vial so it is possible that the error margin on a lab test would not show it. Maybe you would even show a drop, for example, 45.0% on the next test, due to lab error... but... hematocrit in fact rises, and stays with you for several months... The important thing is that you are going in the right direction.

Interpret your blood test as "going in the right direction, about average hematocrit, in a very safe range" and don't put too much importance on the exact number... MORE IMPORTANT is: DO YOU FEEL BETTER ? DO YOU GET LESS TIRED THAN BEFORE ?

how can I get my hematocrit level up faster or is it best to let it rise up slowly?

Don't be in a hurry... Each 4000 iu dose will put your hematocrit up a small increment, and it will stay there, for example, 120 days... so after 120 days you would go down that little amount, and not all that you went up with all the shots together... So if you go UP slowly, you will go DOWN slowly too, in the future.

I have found that, in fact, my hematocrit stays up a lot longer than 120 days. I THINK the reason has to do with the fact that I keep my glucose levels always VERY LOW, or even RELATIVELY VERY LOW, compared to the population on which they probably obtained the statistics that says that hematocrit stays up 120 days. Those might have been sick people, many of them are diabetics, and others are end stage kidney disease patients...

So maybe it stays up 120 days on them, but much longer on me since I maintain my glucose levels strictly below 120, and maybe 98% of the time in the range 70 to 105. My MAINTENANCE DOSE is one vial every 4 or 5 weeks, and with that I have stayed at between 52% and 54% since the year 2002.

So... I RECOMMEND you should test your blood glucose before and after every meal, and if it is above 105, try to think of which part of your meal was responsible for putting up your glucose, and AT LEAST YOU LEARN which food items are not so innocent, and so this might influence you to eat less of them in the future or not eat them at all...

Write to me if you have other questions, and I will be happy to help you, but put "EPO" somewhere on the Subject line.

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How do mega vitamins fit in with HGH, EPO, Testosterone, and insulin.?

How does Little Leagues Baseball fit in with Major League Baseball?

That is how vitamins fit in with HGH and EPO and Testosterone and Insulin... They are in the same wavelength, but hormone therapy has much greater power.

I appreciate you putting up with the many questions!!!!

Keep on asking. My "service" is not to only sell good products... it is to teach you that they even exist, and to teach you to use them correctly so you get the most benefit from them and you do not get into trouble using them.

(I hope you understand this also implies you should buy through me, because you help me to help you when you buy through me. Don't buy through the least expensive source, if there is ever another one less expensive than through me, because you might find it. Anybody can advertise any price on the internet, and scams happen. I do not scam, and my products are always authentic.) - Ellis

Can I get my hematocrit level up faster, or is it best to let it rise up slowly?

Don't be in a hurry... Each 4000 iu dose will put your hematocrit up a small increment, and it will stay there, for example, 120 days... so after 120 days you would go down that little amount, and not all that you went up with all the shots together... So if you go UP slowly, you will go DOWN slowly too, in the future. But this is only my suggestion... there are kidney patients that take doses of 40,000 iu at a time, so it is not dangerous if you take 4000 iu every day, or even two doses of 4000 iu together in one shot.

I have found that, in fact, my hematocrit stays up a lot longer than 120 days. I THINK the reason has to do with the fact that I keep my glucose levels always VERY LOW, or even RELATIVELY VERY LOW, compared to the population on which they probably obtained the statistics that says that hematocrit stays up 120 days. Those might have been sick people, many of them are diabetics, and others are end stage kidney disease patients...

So maybe it stays up 120 days on them, but much longer on me since I maintain my glucose levels strictly below 120, and maybe 98% of the time in the range 70 to 105. My MAINTENANCE DOSE is one vial every 4 or 5 weeks, and with that I have stayed at between 52% and 54% for 3 years.

So... to find out how you are handling glucose, I RECOMMEND you should test your blood glucose before and after every meal, and if it is above 105, try to think of which part of your meal was responsible for putting up your glucose... AT LEAST YOU LEARN which food items are not so innocent, and so this might influence you to eat less of them in the future or not eat them at all...

Do you think it is more effective to inject EPO intravenous (through the vein) opposed to subcutaneous, in the stomach or thighs?

The instructions say that it can be injected subcutaneously or intravenously... Some people that have sent me feedback have said that they inject subcutaneously and it gives them good results... however... they don't inject subcutaneously and also intravenously, so they can't compare one to the other...

In any case, 12 vials raises hematocrit about 4% or 5% in them.

I inject intravenously, because I have somebody who helps me to inject it, because it isn't easy to inject yourself intravenously in the arm, using only one other arm and hand... when that person is not around and it is time for me to inject my 1 vial per month, I inject it subcutaneously and it gives me good results as far as I can tell.

The REASON I inject intravenously is because that is how doctors inject their kidney patients... I figure the kidney itself sends EPO out into the blood stream, so... if I can have it injected intravenously I feel it is probably "better"... but "better than what"? All we really care about is results, and both ways apparently raise hematocrit about the same amount for the same dose.

I "suppose" you might get more "bang for the buck" but that would mean that it raises hematocrit more one way than the other, and 12 vials only raised me about 5% when I took EPO for the first time too... so

If so, how much more effective?

Injecting intravenously gave me about the same results as persons who use the same dose subcutaneously, so it is "par for the course"... not better and not worse.

Write to me if you have other questions, and I will be happy to help you, but put "EPO" somewhere on the Subject line.

I am very interested in EPO because my blood pressure has always been low which means I produce less blood than the normal person (or so I have read on the internet). How will I know how much to take and how often? Where do I get this? Can you provide it?

I suppose I am the world's biggest expert on the use of EPO for good health, also, because I am the one who started to use EPO for good health, and not for disease, or for sport, or for anything else except just to be well. I still have not heard of any anti aging doctor or endocrinologist who uses it himself or prescribes it to his patients just to stay well. I don't mean to "brag"... I earn nothing from bragging... I just think that I am light years ahead of doctors because doctors don't use or prescribe EPO just for good health...

So... learn from me. If I was a doctor, I might not prescribe EPO either, because there is too much chance that they would take away my license to practice if I would prescribe EPO for anything except the accepted reasons, which is for extreme kidney malfunction, and after chemotherapy when they have destroyed the patient's blood, and before major surgery, etc. ... they know how to use it for near-death, but not for persons who are healthy and want to stay in optimum health for many more years.

So, I am glad to say I am not, officially, a doctor... But I learned from doctors... I am my own doctor... and I am my only patient. So nobody can take away my license to practice because I don't have a license... so I can learn, and I only teach what I do on myself. I never prescribe anything, but I can direct you to good doctors who I know are competent (because many doctors are not competent to advise you about EPO or other hormones) to get a prescription, and you can learn from me, if you want to.

I will teach you anything you want to know about taking EPO, if I know the answer... and your question you ask above is easy to answer: You will monitor your hematocrit and your blood pressure, and you will make sure it is within safe ranges... or else you won't take EPO. (I have never heard of anybody who monitors and understands hematocrit, that has raised it to dangerous levels by accident.)

That makes sense, doesn't it?

- Ellis

I am very interested in setting up regular consulting sessions with you. How could we get started? I would rather use the doctors you know and possibly include mine.

Of course. Use your doctors. I can work with you and also with your doctors, if they don't tell you that I am crazy.

I am also interested in flying to you for 3 days. Can you give me an idea of what would be included in that and what the advantage would be?

I can fly to you, or you can come to me... If you fly to me, I dedicate my day to you alone and I charge you $1000 per day to teach you everything I can. We can get A LOT done in ONE DAY... or two, if you want...

That includes all I know about using hormones, all that I know about keeping blood glucose near 83 mg/dl, blood tests, visits to my doctors if you want hyperbaric oxygen, EDTA chelation, Botox, Thermage... visits to pharmacies... I will teach you to use a glucose meter to decide which food is correct for you... and 2 years unlimited phone consultations after you meet with me. I will also give you a special "partner" discount on products you buy from me, which will pay for your trip and fees several times.

That means, whatever I sell to you in the future will always have a real and better cost than what I would charge otherwise. You will recover your "tuition" to consult with me by the discounts and the money you will save when you buy the products that you need from me.

See my page, Consult with Ellis Toussier, for more details of what I can teach you, how much it costs, and what you get for it.

I have a question -- can't the RIGHT kind of carbs make a huge difference? I mean the right carbs can keep your blood sugar levels below 130 even after eating, right? I'm talking about beans mostly. I'm trying to lose weight by eating good carbs, mostly beans. I monitor my blood sugar. I try to stay under 130 even after eating.

Doesn't this make sense?

I have bad news for you... "According to Saint Ellis" if you don't get your average glucose levels much further down, starting NOW, you can write your will because you will be dead in about 40 or 50 years. Maybe that doesn't seem so bad, but it is "terrible" according to me... I am only 64 years old (in 2009), and I don't want to die as a young man when I am only age 104 or 114... (I am kidding... but I actually would like to have a young body when I will be 114 years old.)

I suggest you spend the best $97 you will ever spend in your life and consult one hour with me by telephone. I don't advertise that I will give $97 consultations, but I give them when I know I can save your life and your health. You don't have to pay it until after the call, and you don't have to pay it if you don't think what you learn from me will improve your health and extend your life.

My phone... 011 5255 5280 3644... call me anytime, and if I can't answer then, I will tell you when to call again. - Ellis

P.S. "Saint Ellis" (we just happen to have the same name...) is some guy who lives in Mexico who says things that he can't prove, and which some doctors think are crazy... "According to Saint Ellis" these ideas can be very good for your health, but even if they are mistaken they can't be bad for your health. One such idea is "keep your blood glucose under strict control, by hook or by crook." and then he follows that with a table that doctors think is much too strict, but I know it isn't, because I can get my glucose to optimal levels very easily.

According to Saint Ellis, this is the correct interpretation of blood glucose levels:

> 200 mg/dl SUICIDAL
180 mg/dl DEATHLY
160 mg/dl HORRIBLE
140 mg/dl TERRIBLE
120 mg/dl BAD
110 mg/dl VERY HIGH
100 mg/dl HIGH
70 to 85 mg/dl OPTIMAL
55 to 69 mg/dl LOW

From: "Ethics of Performance Enhancement in Sport: Drugs and Gene Doping"
June, 2007
by Bennett Foddy, Harold T. Shapiro Postdoctoral Fellowship in Bioethics at the Center for Human Values, Princeton University
Julian Savulescu, PhD, Professor and Uehiro Chair in Practical Ethics, Oxford University

"Playing sport at an elite level is not suicide, but neither is steroid use. To be sure, elite athletes are healthier on average than any morbidly obese person. But elite athletes in some sports can expect to have a serious medical problem every year or two.

This is not true of EPO, taken at a reasonable dosage. Even at very high dosages, and even if we take into account the poorly - substantiated rumours of EPO - related deaths, EPO does not present any risks that cannot be found from just over-training or especially from hypoxic training. If you have a low haematocrit for genetic or dietary reasons, EPO could actually improve your health."

Read more: Bennett Foddy, D Phil

Julian Savulescu, PhD

Prepare yourself for a mind blowing read... read in this order:

EPO and Bicycle racing, anonymous

What Is Sarcopenia?

What is EPO?

Anemia, EPO, and Senility

Sarcopenia, "age related loss of muscles"

EPO F.A.Q. Page

High Altitude Pathology Institute IPPA, La Paz, Bolivia

Dr. Gustavo Zubieta, Jr., and Dr. Gustavo Zubieta, Sr.
High Altitude Pathology Institute, La Paz, Bolivia.

Increased Polycythemia (thickening of the blood) Ally or Foe in the Conquest of Mount Everest?

Bernardo Guarachi, age 45, has made history by becoming the first Bolivian to reach the top of Mount Everest. But from a medical point of view, his achievement has a much higher significance.

Bernardo is the best known mountain guide in Bolivia. He has summited Illimani (6490 m), 170 times and of course all the other important mountains in Bolivia and South America including Aconcagua, Chile (6959 m), with no supplementary oxygen. Bernardo is a descendant of the Aymaras and has made his conquest as a sole representative of Bolivia, with little funds, joining groups from other countries. On his first attempt back in 1994, he had a normal hematocrit of 56% (average saturation of 92%) for 3510 mts, but we noticed that he had small positive slope on the plateau of the single-breath nitrogen washout curve, because of uneven ventilation. On that occasion he did not reach the summit of Mount Everest, but he did reach the summit of K-2 (a mountain).

Four years later, and four months prior to his second successful attempt on May 25, 1998, he had a hematocrit of 70% and an average saturation of 90%. His many ascents (some even with flu), may have probably injured some alveolar areas of his lung. Life insurance was rejected because of his increased polycythemia.

We told him that this polycythemia was a compensating mechanism to his mild pulmonary function alteration, as we sustain in our concept of chronic mountain sickness (CMS), and advised him not to spend a week in Berlin, Germany prior to ascent, as he had planned to attend a ITB gathering there. He could not avoid such compromise, but reduced his stay to two days. Nutrition with proteins and carbohydrates was instructed. The ascent was troublesome. Ironically, he rented 3 tubes of oxygen but once on the mountain, he found out that two were 1/4 full and one only 1/2 full. Plus the Sherpa accompanying him also needed oxygen.

Bernardo eventually went down to rent other tubes and he only used 1 liter/minute (our advice), on his climb from camp 4 to the south summit where he stayed 15 minutes with oxygen and due to lack of climbing equipment was unable to reach the top summit and returned to camp 4. On his way down, at 8500 m he took off the oxygen mask because he noticed that he was hyperventilating too much and felt better.

On his next try, he made a successful ascent with 1 liter per minute initially which he raised to 2 liters near the summit. At the summit (8848 m), he took off his oxygen mask to place the Bolivian flag, and remained without it for about one hour (risky, we now think... it surprised us too.) The other 2 Singapore climbers kept them on. He holds two records of fast ascent and descent the same day from summit to base camp and permanence without oxygen at the top, where he affirms he "breathed better without the oxygen mask".

We don't know the specific type of mask used and we lack an explanation.

For us, this proves proves that increased polycythemia was indeed beneficial and an ally in tolerance to extreme hypoxia. It compensated for Bernardo's mild uneven ventilation.

A check-up two days after his return to La Paz, showed that his hematocrit was 62% (probably due to deficient nutrition, fundamentally on rice) and a chest x-rays with some fine nodular spots in both lungs. This observation, we feel is an important contribution to the concept that increased polycythemia, is a compensatory mechanism of adaptation of the organism with anatomical or functional impairment of the lung in a chronically hypoxic environment [1,2].

In the case of Bernardo Guarachi, with minimum impairment but significant increase of the polycythemia, due to the altitude effect. It further sends the message to those suffering from chronic mountain sickness at high altitude, not to fear their increased polycythemia, since it is beneficial for their residence at high altitude, provided their lung and/or heart disease is well taken care of.

Gustavo Zubieta (Jr.) and Gustavo Zubieta (Sr.)

1. Zubieta-Castillo, G. & Zubieta-Calleja G (1996). New concepts on Chronic Mountain Sickness. Acta Andina, Vol 5:1 pp 3-7.

2. CMS in www.geocities.com\CapeCanaveral\6280.


Ellis Toussier, 62 year old, picture taken in October 2007
About Me: My name is Ellis Toussier Bigio. I am "The Amazing Dirty Old Man WHO DOES NOT GROW OLDER..." with emphasis on "who does not grow older" because that is what is most important. I will be 64 years old soon, but I think I look and feel as if I am about 45... I honestly think I might be the healthiest and youngest 63 year old man in history because nobody before me has ever done what I have been doing since I was 20 to stay young and healthy... And sexy...  

The fantastic hormones which I am now using and many of the anti-aging therapies that are so good for my health simply did not exist before 1985.

I live in Mexico City, where I am free to buy and sell and teach others around the world to use legal and good hormones, under the supervision of good doctors. I am not a doctor, but many doctors think I know my topic so well that they pay me to consult with me... Some doctors call me "colleague"... and other doctors call me "The Madman in Mexico..." (I prefer "The Madman in Mexico" because people accept that a madman might think differently than they do...) NOTE: I only use and sell LEGAL medicines. Everything I sell is registered with the F.D.A., or Salubridad in Mexico.

I like to think of myself as "the King of Growth Hormone," "the Father of EPO to prevent senility and age related loss of muscle and mobility" and... "the Father and the Mother of using Insulin for non-diabetics to prevent diabetes and aging."

I hope you will think I am "The King" and not "The Madman in Mexico"... but if you do, that is fine with me... He that laughs last, laughs best, and I have no doubt in my mind that I will have the last laugh.


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What do I need to know about Laser Therapy... Fraxell... Thermage... Botox... Api-Therapy... Hair Transplants... Lipo-Suction... Breast or Nose or Face or other PLASTIC SURGERY? How can I find a great Plastic Surgeon (and save thousands of dollars) in Mexico... Brazil... Argentina... Thailand, or India?

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March 25, 2006

Dear Ellis,

"I want to express my feeling of deepest gratitude to you for teaching me about the significance of EPO. I learned about EPO first from you. Initially I did not pay much attention to it.

What happened to me about two years ago when I was 88, was sudden mysterious anemia (hematocrit 35-38%). My doctor did not worry about my anemia... He said it is mild and stable, there is nothing to worry about... but I felt terribly weak... I felt like I was dying.

Reading what you have written about EPO on Rejuvenation, I asked another doctor to write a prescription for EPO. The results are beyond description. A Miracle! Now I feel stronger... much stronger than I was 10 or more years ago. Now I think better than before, and I publish better books and papers than before.

I wish to express again my deepest feelings of gratitude towards you. I feel you saved my life and restored my high working and creative capacity.

With kindest regards,

Sebastian Shaumyan
Professor of Linguistics, Yale University

July, 2006

Hi Ellis,

"You might remember me. I am the 66 year old Phoenix firefighter that has the hyperbaric chamber that I use for mountain bike racing. I also let ill people use my chamber ( for $5.00 which is the actual cost to operate a high pressure oxygen chamber for an hour) that can't afford to go to a hyperbaric oxygen center. I myself have done over 400 dives in the 3+ yrs that I have had the chamber. I owe it to you Ellis to explain what I know because I learned almost everything I now know (including the benefits of hyperbaric oxygen) and about staying healthy from years of following your advice on Rejuvenation."

- Frank Lively
Phoenix, Arizona

July, 2006

Hi Ellis,

"I've been a student of health and longevity for all my adult life. I used to own a health/herb store and used to teach herbal healing. I'm fairly knowledgeable about both natural healing and some areas in the fields of medical science, having worked as a biomedical engineer for over 12 years.

I've been a member of Rejuvenation for several years, using many of your suggestions like monitoring blood glucose and using HGH, among other things, both of which have made a big difference for me.."

- Scott Brown
Northern California

December 15, 2007

Dear Ellis,

Even though we haven't yet met in person, I feel as though I know you. I feel this way because I have read quite a bit from your extensive writings on your website. I appreciate the way you use metaphors and analogies to get your points across when explaining information. You are very informative, you are very logical, and all that you write makes perfect sense to me.

One of the first things I did after stumbling on your website more than two months ago was to go straight to the drugstore and buy myself a glucose meter. After reading the very informative essay on your website about the dangers of high glucose and the things that typically cause high glucose numbers leading to diabetes, I thought for sure I was probably a walking diabetic who didn't know it.

I have gained great insight and knowledge into how the body metabolizes food from your writings. And I have learned that most diabetics become so because of their eating habits and not because of heredity. All this knowledge was acquired from reading through your website.

I feel greatly indebted to you for all the extensive writings on health and what things we can do to improve our chances of living a more vibrant life. You are a wealth of information. I feel lucky to have made contact with you.

David Shapero
(e-mail received December 15, 2007)

Dec. 17, 2007

Dear Ellis,

I wanted to update you about my last order. What a miracle! I can't tell you how bad I felt until I realized how good I should be feeling. Much more energy, clear thinking, all the effects that I read about. I can't tell you how angry it makes me that a doctor would not prescribe this stuff to me!

Thank you so much for what you have done with me. I thought at first that you had a huge ego. But from how you made me feel, you deserve the ego. No doctor has done a fraction of what you have done. I can't begin to express my gratitude. Very expensive but WORTH EVERY PENNY! I'd rather cut back all other areas just to feel alive again.

(name withheld by request)

(e-mail received December, 2007)

January 3, 2008

Hi Ellis,

Just to give you my feedback, I started using HGH 3 months ago at 1 iu per day. I had a slight headache for the first week, but then it went away. In a retrospect, I should have lowered my dose and let my body slowly adjust to it.

The results are very subtle. I still have crows feet by my eyes, and I don't see the backs of my hands being any different. However, small wrinkles above my upper lip disappeared, my lips are plumper, and they regained the vibrant color that they had when I was younger.

Recently I went to a wedding and met people that I didn't see for years; they said that I did not change at all. Some of the people that see me every day at my work say that I look good, and others look at me carefully as if they were trying to detect scars from incisions after plastic surgery. BUT THERE AREN'T ANY. It's like having a face lift from the inside; no scars. People notice my youthful appearance but they can't put their finger on the reason why?

I also noticed that I have more muscles and my mood has improved. I am beginning to feel happy and optimistic as I used to until last couple of years (I'm now 52). I hope that this trend continues.

Thanks to you Dr. Ellis! I am grateful for all you do.


(e-mail received January 3, 2008)

January 14, 2008

Hi Ellis,

I am a physician and I have been practicing medicine for ten years in Southern California. I understand the art of caring for those that entrust us with their care. I know that you are a very busy man with many emails and forums to follow and respond too. Your expertise deserves many appreciative thanks. I am looking forward to a longevity driven friendship with you and your services. Thank you.

(name withheld by request)

(e-mail received January 14, 2008)

Feb. 26, 2008

Hi Ellis,

My wife wants to thank you, (and I want to thank you also) because since I have been controlling my sugar, I am not as moody.... For the last few years I was really irritable... I guess when your blood sugar is 200 to 400 all day it can make you grumpy....not to mention shorten your life..
Just think, last November my blood sugar was 300 in the mornings, before eating. Now it's 85-105 in the morning... My HbA1c was 8.3, and now as of two days ago it was 5.3%... not perfect "according to Ellis," but definitely not usual for diabetics.

My doctor couldn`t believe it, or understand it: diet, insulin and Ellis!


Yours in health,

Dr. Danny M DeGraff


January, 2002

Hi Ellis,

"I am a plastic surgeon in Shreveport, Louisiana. I just found your two sites on the Internet. I've read your personal experience site twice and have read much of the Message board that contains over 6,000 messages. They are excellent.

I became interested in growth hormone and antiaging three years ago and have been taking growth hormone at bedtime for over two years. Like you, my results have been impressive. I'm 57 years old. I am 6 ft 1 in and weight 202 pounds with 9% body fat. I exercise regularly ( 5 times a week) and do moderate weight training.

My diet is good, high protein, moderate complex carbs and low fat. After reading your page I certainly need to improve it some.

Due to my personal results, I started offering anti-aging and growth hormone replacement to my patients 8 months ago. I've read much of the literature and have attended two meetings of the American Academy of AntiAging Medicine. Although it only been a few months my patients are THRILLED about the therapy and almost all are reporting specific areas of improvement.

Thanks so much for your work in this area. I want to return to Puebla for more Spanish education. Possibly I could include some time in Mexice City also. I would love to meet you.


Dr. Jim McDonald

(e-mail received January, 2002)

March 11, 2008

Hello Ellis,

Thanks again for all of the time that you spent with me in Mexico City. I learned even more than I had hoped to on that trip.

When you first began to write about insulin for non-diabetics several years ago, I thought that you were probably wrong about it. I have slowly become convinced that more and more of what you are saying about insulin is correct. By the time I came to Mexico City, I was pretty sure that you are right, and since then I've become even more convinced.

I've even found out that some major medical scientists are now changing their thinking in this direction, and one formal study has begun on the use of Lantus in individuals with any sort of impaired fasting glucose or impaired glucose tolerance.

These scientists are far behind you, but their thinking is finally headed in the same direction.

Jerry Emanuelson

(e-mail received March 11, 2008

May 25, 2008

Hello Ellis,

I have tried studying insulin, EPO, HGH, etc. on the internet and to be honest, all searches and sites eventually led back to you... In my opinion, you have far more research and current knowledge of what works than anybody else I have found... Compared to you, everybody else seems outdated and very rigid in their thinking...

Maybe I will go and get certified in anti aging medicine in a few years in the US, but I won't go until after I study under you... I don't know why, but this feels right.

Yours in health,

Dr. Danny M DeGraff D.C.

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e-mail received on October 28, 2004:

"Here is my honest opinion of Dr. XXXXX: He is a very smart man and very kind, but his office is a chaotic mess and he is extremely understaffed. Since as a patient I can never speak to him on the phone etc. it is impossible to work closely enough with him to get proper dosing etc. He is so busy though that it is impossible to be monitored by him the way one should be when starting any hormone therapy. His phone is always busy, appts. are hard to come by and he is VERY expensive. The average visit ends up costing anywhere from $500-$750 depending on what he wants to do, such as blood draws, bone density testing etc. I plan to never go back.

I am currently using a small portion of progesterone which was recommended by him and have been taking DHEA and melatonin to help lower my cortisol levels. I buy my HGH from you, of course, and most of the other supplements he had me take made me sick, so I stopped taking them." - (a female patient of Dr. XXXXX (a very well known and competent and expensive doctor.)

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Table of Contents | | Consult with Ellis Toussier (re: Good Nutrition, Anti-Aging Therapies) | Is HGH a cure for Eczema? | HGH to Grow Taller | HGH and Pain from a Neck Injury | HGH and Psoriasis | HGH and Lupus: How to Become Assymptomatic of Lupus | HGH to Grow Hair | HGH and Anti-Aging Program | HGH and Menopause | RITUALS: What I Do Regularly to Stay Young and Sexy | ENERGY: How Do HGH, EPO, Testosterone, Insulin affect Energy? | HGH and Macular Degeneration | HGH, EPO, and Testosterone to Prevent Sarcopenia | About Testosterone | HGH and HIV+ | What is EPO? | Diabetes Made Simple | Endocrinology Made Simple: The Big Five Anti-Aging Hormones "according to Ellis..." | Five Theories of Aging: Why Do We Grow Older and How Can We Slow It Down ? | AntiAging Secrets: A Risk Management Approach | Rejuvenation, My Amazing 8 Point Anti-Aging Program | The Anti-Aging Anti-Diabetes Diet | The Anti-Aging Athletic Diet: How to Prevent Loss of Neurons | How to Postpone Diabetes: Think Like a Diabetic! | The 70 Minute Glucose Roller Coaster Ride... My Pancreas Lives! | Using Insulin: The Non-Diabetic Use of Insulin | Frequently Asked Questions Re: Non-Diabetic Use of Insulin |ENERGY: How do HGH, Testosterone, Insulin, and EPO affect energy? | RITUALS: What I do every day to stay well... | MYTHS: NOT TRUE. (re: good nutrition, hormones, diabetes, etc.) | F.A.Q.: Does HGH Cause Diabetes? | F.A.Q.: Does HGH Cause High Blood Glucose? | Using Lantus: The Non-Diabetic Use of Lantus | The Glucose Theory of Aging | The Non-Diabetic Use of Insulin for Anti-Aging | Assess Your Pancreas... | Going Through U.S. Customs With HGH, EPO, and Insulin... | The Anti-Aging Anti-Diabetes Diet... | Anemia, EPO, and Senility | The Carbohydrate Thermometer | 10 Typical Glucose Tolerance Test Results | EPO F.A.Q. | Normal Values of Red Blood Cells | HGH F.A.Q. | Ellis Toussier's Hb-A1c to Mean Plasma Glucose Conversion Table | Side Effects of Excess Dose of HGH | J. Donelson Jones, Age 92, the Amazing Interview | About Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome| Confessions of The Amazing Dirty Old Man... My Secret Sex Life Revealed... | Trisoralen (Meladinina): A Pigment Potentiator for your skin or hair... | A Message From Mexico... | About My Legendary Ego... | My Diploma: Why I Know I Am Qualified to Say: "I know what I'm doing..." |
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