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March 25, 2006
Dear Ellis,
I LUV YA MAN !!!!!
This stuff is starting to "kick in".... After years of anemia, I can finally breathe!!!
I can't wait to inject the next two boxes and bring my hematocit up into the upper 40's.... I was sooo anemic before... remember, my hematocrit has been as low as 38%...
Thank You so much for what you're doing for me... when no one else cared...
(name withheld by request)
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Ellis,
I know just how he feels. You are a lifesaver. Without EPO supplementation my hematocrit gets a s low as 35. You can imagine how I feel. (name withheld by request)
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Can you tell me how to use EPO?
In short: Check your hematocrit before you start (or if you have already
checked recently, that is good enough...)
Take 1 vial of 4000 iu per day, subcutaneous or intravenous, until you have taken 12 vials. You can conceivably use 2 vials per day, because the dose of 40,000 iu exists, but be aware that every 3 vials will put up your hematocrit about 1% (ie, from 45% to 46%) You could also take 1 vial every other day, for 12 doses.
After 12 vials, check your hematocrit, and do not exceed 60%. I do not exceed 55%, but I would raise to 60% if I wanted to go up Mt. Everest, for example.
Use a 1.0 ml insulin type syringe, and you can inject into a vein, or you can inject subcutaneously, into the fat around the belly, for example... anywhere...
at any time...
I have been told that 50% hematocrit is the highest allowed for hematocrit in bicycle racers before a race, so I am certain 50% hematocrit is not dangerous. I keep my hematocrit at 55% which exists and is normal for about the top 1% of the population at sea level, or very common in the population that lives at about 4000 meters above sea level, for example in cities and towns in high mountains in South America or in Tibet.
After you have reached the level you want, it will last about 3 or 4 or 5 months, depending on the food you eat (low carb high protein is best, high carb low fat is worst) and your height and weight, and the kind of exercise you do: If you are sedentary red blood cells last longer... if you do very heavy exercise such as bicycle riding or marathon running, red blood cells are crushed faster so they need to be replaced sooner.
In any case, at about 3 or 4 months you check your hematocrit again... when
you notice it is beginning to drop, you take ABOUT half as much dose as it took to get you UP: for example: it took twelve vials 12 vials and it lasted 3 months... that means it took = 4 vials per month... So you need ABOUT 2 vials per month, maybe more, maybe less, depending on your weight, height, what you eat, and how much you exercise.
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May, 2008
Note: My hematocrit was at about 52- 54% for several years... I tested several times, and reached the conclusion that 1 vial per month was enough to sustain hematocrit. So I stopped testing but continued to inject 1 vial per month...
After 1 year, I tested again... Hematocrit came out 49.9% and Hemoglobin nearly 17%... That means that 1 vial per month was in fact not enough to sustain at 52% to 54%...
Seen by itself, 49.9% is not a bad level. In fact it is the level that is allowed for bicycle riders to compete without being disqualified for too high hematocrit. But I am not a bicycle rider, and I want my hematocrit to be 52% to 54%, not 50%.
So I took 6 vials of EPO which I expect will raise my hematocrit to about 52%. There is ZERO chance that my hematocrit will go above 60% or 70%, so I am not scared of taking 6 vials in one week.
Later I will test and make sure I am at about 52% or 53% then I will try to raise to 54% or 55%.
I do all this under the supervision of my doctor in Mexico. I do not advise that anybody should do what I do unless you are under the supervision of a doctor.
Call me by telephone if you have any questions. From the U.S. or Canada: 011 5255 5280 3644. From most other countries: 00 5255 5280 3644. Free calls only on Thursday from 4:00 to 5:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time. Any other time costs $2 per minute, payable after the call if you think it was worth it. - Ellis
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Can you describe what it is like to be on EPO?
Pretend you are a fish, swimming in the ocean...
You are swimming and suddenly you come to a place where there is
a lot of pollution and low oxygen content in the water... so you
struggle to swim through the water, but you get tired and you are
gasping for breath...
Then... you come out of that pollution and you feel MUCH BETTER
again...
You continue to swim when suddenly you come to "An Octopus's
Garden"... Here there is 20% MORE OXYGEN in the water here... It
is EASY for you to breathe and to swim here.
In fact it is so easy that you can swim fast and you do several
backflips and summersaults and you feel this feeling of happiness,
because this is how it used to be when you were younger, everything
is easy for you to do again, you don't get tired easily and you
forget that you ever get tired. - Ellis
I just received my blood work back and it says I have a 13.5 Hemoglobin and a 41.1 HCT level. Then it tells me that normal levels for Hemoglobin is 11.0 - 15.0 and that I am fine, and for HCT normal levels are 35.0 - 46.0 and therefore I am normal here too.
Do different labs have different ranges and levels, because one of the letters I read on your page was from someone with very simular numbers as mine and you were saying he was low sick.
"According to Ellis" you are "low sick"... according to doctors, it is "normal" to have a hematocrit between 35 and 45% so they don't stop to think if 35% is any better than 45%... (and by the way: Superman's hematocrit is about 52% to 54%)
It is "normal" for many people to be "low sick" so most doctors don't stop to think what is "optimal" or if there is anything they should or could do about it. Plus, they don't want to stick their necks out. If they prescribe EPO, other doctors might criticize them. So it is safer to tell you to go home and don't bother them anymore.
It is "normal" for people to die at age 75, so if you die at age 74 or 75, doctors are happy that they have done a good job.
If you count 1000 graves in a graveyard, and you check what the person died of, about 500 persons 50% died of a heart attack or stroke. So it is "normal" to die of a heart attack or stroke.
So... which do you want to be? Do you want to be "normal" and live sick and die at age 75, or do you want to be "abnormal" and live to age 100 in a young body, with your mind intact if possible?
You are like a person who is drowning, and I have just thrown you a lifeline... I suggest you should grab it and don't let go. I'm not kidding, you should try to Stay with Ellis.
Let's be honest, a lot of these athletes who are top distance runners are doing what is in my opinion beyond human capacity. Some are suspected of using EPO. Since this is illegal in sports, is there any other product you are aware of that helps specifically an athlete like me a runner (distance) that helps to become stronger or maybe help with oxygen transport.
I understand your frustration... it is the same as for all athletes, who must decide whether to break a bad rule and improve their body to be able to compete, or not break a bad rule and to know without doubt that you will lose, because you have chosen to obey a bad rule which says you cannot improve your body health...
No, there is no other product that is legal in sports that I am aware of that will raise your capacity to process oxygen. And if they ever find one, it will immediately be forbidden in sports. Testosterone will also raise your red blood cells, but it is also forbidden in sports. Anything that helps your body to be better so you can run faster or jump further is forbidden in sports. You are expected not to intervene with any medicine or technology and you should allow your body to deteriorate at its expected rate of decline.
There are hermetically sealed tents where they REMOVE oxygen from the air you breathe, thus simulating that you are going UP in altitude... that is LEGAL IN SPORTS, but ridiculous in practice, and even BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH... how can BREATHING LESS OXYGEN be allowed in sports, when it is intrinsically BAD for you? I dunno. That is how upside down the rules are. What is bad is good, and what is good is bad. In any case: it will increase your hematocrit, but I think it is unhealthy, and I think it is healthy to increase my hematocrit with EPO which is the hormone that is natural to my body.
You can fix your car and tune the engine and change ball bearings and put in new spark plugs and use high octane fuel, but you are not supposed to fine tune your body with anything except with food and vitamins and exercise. In the future, they might forbid you to use vitamins too... that is actually very close to happening, at the United Nations level.
You can "legally" (according to sports) go live on top of a very high mountain for a few weeks... but I suggest you find a very high one that is 4500 meters high or more, if you want to get good results... You can train on top of El Nevado de Toluca near Mexico City, which is 4500 meters high... or you can train in some places near La Paz, Bolivia, which are 4500 meters or higher... Or you can go to the Himalayas and train there...
But Oxygen deprivation is bad for your health... it will stimulate your body to produce more EPO to raise your red blood cells, which is good for your health, but your body will suffer because you are denying it oxygen while you force it to make more EPO... so it is bad for your health.
So according to the Sports rules, the only way you can get a good end result is if you do something that is bad for your health temporarily... but if you do something that is good for your health without first doing something that is bad for your health, it is forbidden.
It makes sense, doesn't it? No? It doesn't? You mean, its crazy? Like an Alice-in-Wonderland upside down world, where good is bad and bad is good???
Yes, that is exactly what it is like... It doesn't make any sense, but that is how it is in most of the world. You can smoke tobacco with no problem, and you can drink alcohol and get drunk all you want to, but please don't use growth hormone or EPO or Testosterone because they are forbidden for athletes, they are TOO GOOD for you.
You can try vitamins, and you can try eating good food, both of which are also good for you... but neither one will increase the number of red blood cells, which is the only way that oxygen gets to every cell of your body.
I am not an athlete. I am an Old Man in excellent health who wants to remain in excellent health body and mind. I use EPO for my good physical and mental health, and to stay in good physical and mental health... It is legal for me to use it, because it is a legal medicine... it is not cocaine or heroine, etc.
It is a hormone, natural to my body, and it is ultimately very good for my body to have the right amount of EPO at the right time.
Since it is forbidden according to the rules for me to run in the Olympics or in sports events, I don't run in the Olympics or in sports events... but I still run, because it is very good for my health.
I don't compete in events where they forbid persons to be so healthy as I am, which they say is "cheating"... but my health is much more important to me than to win or lose in a sports event. I win the only contest that is important to me, which is to be in super good health, because my body is in fact in super good health because I don't have to try to obey a rule which would force me to purposely allow my body to deteriorate... that is bad for my health. To me it makes more sense to win the health contest, and not to compete in sports.
I could give you a dissertation on the questions you ask, but I don't have time to write more. If you want to consult with me by telephone, I give free consultation on Thursday from 4:00 to 5:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time. Any other time costs $2 per minute, which you can pay me however you like, and pay only if you think it was worth it. But if you want to continue to consult with me I ask for 12 sessions at least, so that you will get RESULTS, because that is what is important.
For how long will the benefit of 2 boxes of EPO last me?
EPO makes new red blood cells, and then the new red blood cells stay in your body until they are damaged or get old, at which point they are recycled out of your body. That takes an AVERAGE of 4 months, but it might be more, and it might be less, depending on HOW MUCH AND HOW FAST YOU DAMAGE THEM, both because of the sports you practice and also because of the food you eat.
In MY case... I think red blood cells last longer than 4 months, because I don't do sports that damage red blood cells, like marathon running and long distance bicycle riding... and I eat very low carb.
So my MAINTAINANCE DOSE to keep red blood cells at about 54% is only ONE vial PER MONTH, which makes me think that red blood cells last about 6 months in MY body.
I have been informed by high performance athletes that THEIR hematocrit starts to go DOWN in 6 to 8 weeks, so they need to maintain with much more than 1 vial per month.
1. Which blood tests should I take before I take EPO?
You need to know "hematocrit" and "hemoglobin". "Average" hematocrit is about 45% and hemoglobin about 15% or 14.8%, about there... Bicycle riders are tested and allowed to run long distance races if their hematocrit is at most 50%, so I consider 50% hematocrit is a very safe hematocrit. My own hematocrit has been between 52% and 55% since I began to use EPO in 2002.
You should also test for iron. Iron carries oxygen so it is good, but it also oxidizes, so too much iron is bad. There are two tests for iron. One is the "transferrin saturation," or T-SAT test. Your score should be at least 20% and not more than 50%. The other test is "serum ferritin" (SF) test, your score should be between 200 ng/mL and not more than 800 ng/mL.
How do they detect if you used EPO? I guess it shows in your hematocrit, and not some other way?
For a few days after you inject EPO, there is an overabundance of immature
red blood cells... however, after 6 or 7 days, those immature red blood cells are already mature, and they are indistinguishable from any other mature red blood cell, so after 7 days they can't detect if you used EPO (unless the EPO had a marker, which some of them do...) At that point, they disqualify athletes with a hematocrit above 50% "for your safety"...
I assume as long as you are below that 50% mark you are okay.
I have read that they allow some athletes to be a bit higher, because those athletes have convinced them that they have "natural" levels higher than 50%... you see, 1% of the population actually has hematocrit up to 54% or 55%... In studies made of athletes whose hematocrit was known, before EPO existed, about 10% had hematocrit above 50%... So they would have to disqualify the best athletes if they would enforce the 50% limit strictly... so they don't enforce it strictly for the top top athletes... but they keep them "honest"...
Helicopter pilots who spend a lot of time at high altitude not in pressurized cabins, have hematocrit above 50%...
Can you please tell me what are the side effects of EPO?
You get smarter... You can think and create better because your brain is full of oxygen, so it has whatever oxygen it needs... You are more creative, and you feel better... You will have more energy.
That is the only side effect you will have if you keep hematocrit at a natural and high level.
How do I know this is true? Because I have kept my hematocrit at between 52% and 55% for 6 years. Instead of declining mentally, I have been more productive and creative than ever... And also, I know that people who have LOW hematocrit have trouble to remember, to learn, bad grades in school, etc... so... this is the OPPOSITE end of the bell curve, it is logical to believe that a CHESS PLAYER who has a higher hematocrit would have more success than a CHESS PLAYER who has a LOW hematocrit.
There are no "bad" side effects of using EPO if you do not put your hematocrit up above 70%, which you would have to be insane to do, and you cannot get it there "accidentally"... Think about it: It takes 3 vials to raise your hematocrit UP by 1%... You inject ONE vial per day... Even if you would make a mistake and take THREE vials per day for 8 days before you finally realized your mistake, you would only raise your hematocrit from 45% to 53%... You would have to take 3 vials mistakenly for 25 days in a row to get your hematocrit up to 70%... Obviously, you can't do it if you only have 12 vials.
So... disregard all you read about getting your blood so thick that you might have a heart attack. Whoever writes those articles doesn't know how EPO works,
and is clueless about what red blood cell level is actually dangerous.
I was in a city this past weekend at an altitude of about 2000 feet and did some hills training and I felt terrible compared to how I feel in the sea level city that I live in. I can imagine how hard 5000 ft. or higher would be like..
6000 meters is barely base camp 1, to climb Mt. Everest... 7000 meters is quite a bit worse... and 8000 meters is even worse...
Somebody who used EPO went up a 7000 meter mountain in India... He told me that everybody else in the group arrived two or three weeks before he did, to get "acclimatized"... But except for him, everybody else had trouble walking and climbing at high altitude...
Of course, his hematocrit was about 50% or higher, and the others were probably all about 45% or a bit higher.
. There are 12 vials, and since you said this was a 3-4 month supply is it safe to assume I will be using 1 vial every 8 days?
No. You have to understand how it works: EPO will cause your bones to make more red blood cells... the red blood cells will last 90 to 120 days, then they are recycled out of the body by the kidneys (I think). It takes 6 days for the new red blood cells to mature... so...
Supposing that you have 12 vials of 4000 iu each... you will take three vials per week, for 4 weeks... and your red blood cells will go up 6 days after each shot, but altogether you will get about 4% or 5% increase in hematocrit, ie, from 42% to 46% or 47%, or from 39% to 44%, etc. Then it will remain that high for about 4 months.
Then it starts to go down, as the red blood cells are recycled out of your blood. You can maintain the high level with about half as much EPO spaced out over the next 90 days, so instead of three times per week it becomes MORE OR LESS one every week, or one every two weeks. You will know where and how to do this by monitoring your blood hematocrit and/or hemoglobin levels.
One of the sheets you sent said .4 ml for every 2-3 days (which would
bring it to about this amount as well)
Take one vial of 4000 iu on Monday, one on Wednesday, and one on Friday or
Saturday, etc, until you finish the 12 vials.
I was under the impression that this was something that needed to be
used daily (or even 2-3 times a day) but this sheet implies that it can be
used every 2nd or 3rd day. Which is correct?
Every 2nd or 3rd day is correct.
Does it really matter?
I think it does not really matter... you could take it every day if
you wanted to, because some people take 10,000 iu in one shot (I know, because the dosage exists.) But I have always taken it 3 times a week, as it reads on the instruction sheet.
What is your suggestion as to when to take the injections and how often?
If you are not in a hurry, take it as it says, 3 times per week, any time of day. If you are in a hurry, you can surely take it everyday, with no problem at all.
The sheet also says something about the injection being given subcutaneously (between the skin and muscle). I thought it was to be placed
straight into the blood stream. Which is correct?
Either way is correct, according to the instructions. However, if you
take it by intravenous injection I THINK it is probably more effective. But... it is easier to take it sub-cutaneously. I take it intravenously.
if 2 vials per month will maintain levels, will 4 per month give better
results?
No...
You want your hematocrit to STAY at a certain level, you don't want it to
continue to RISE UP higher than you had it... so if (for example) 2 vials keeps
your hematocrit at 50%, 4 vials might raise it to 50.5%, and the next month
to 51%, and the next month to 51.5%, etc... in other words, it will be rising slowly and in a few months it will be higher than where you want it to be.
BUT... it takes MORE EPO to maintain hematocrit in some people than in others, and the way to find out what is YOUR maintenance dose, you have to monitor your red blood cells over a long period of time.
For example, a BIG person needs more...
People who EAT a lot of carbohydrates damage more good red blood cells by
glucose...
And some types of activities CRUSH more red blood cells, so the red blood cell is recycled out of the body sooner... for example, RUNNERS or BICYCLE RIDERS need more EPO for maintenance dose than persons whose activities don't crush red blood cells, like walking, weight lifting, swimming, etc.
For example, I am medium size for a male (175 lbs), I eat very low carbs, and I don't run marathons or ride bicycle long distances... My maintenance dose is an incredibly low ONE vial every month or five weeks! And I know persons whose maintenance dose is 2 or 3 vials per month.
Once you are at, say, 54% how do you keep at the desired level (maintance dosage)? Do you have to come off for a period of time or continue constantly?
Once you get to 54%, for example, you would stay at that level for several
months... You should take a blood test about month 3 or 4, and when you
notice that it has fallen a bit, let us suppose to 52%, then you take about
1 or 2 vials of 4000 iu, wait 10 days, and then take another blood test and see
what happened.
In theory, every 3 vials will put you UP about 1 point, but I have found
that in fact with 1 vial every three or four weeks I balance at or near
54%... the blood test itself has a bit of error, so you have to play it by ear... it is a matter of testing and seeing what exactly happens, and then adjusting it slowly.
What I do not want to see is hematocrit at or above 60%, although 60% itself is not dangerous either... but I want to stay away from the edge of the cliff... If I aim for 54% I might get to 55% but I will never get to 60% accidentally... and if I do, I will still have a safety cushion to 70%... but I would not go to 60% (unless I would want to climb to the top of Mount Everest... which I will never want to do...) because it is not necessary to go to 60%... at 55% I already feel like Superman. - Ellis Toussier
What is the shelf life of the product?
Right now as I write, I have boxes of EPO that have an expiration date 16 months into the future (Sept, 2007, expires in January 2009)... and it surely lasts a year or two or three after that. (I have used "old" EPO, with no problem)
It looks like I need to mix the solution into the bottle with the powder by using a syringe (to pump the clear liquid into it). I'm just making sure that this is the way it needs to be done.
Yes, that is how it is done. One vial contains the powder, one vial
contains the water... suck up the water (1 c.c.) into a syringe and put it into the vial with the powder... It takes a few minutes to dissolve completely, and once it is dissolved, it is a crystal clear liquid.
About how long after it is mixed can you begin to use it, and for how long will it keep well in a refrigerator?
Use it soon after you have mixed it. Mix one vial and inject
the entire vial in one sub-cutaneous or intravenous injection. You should never have a mixed vial that is wholly or partially used, so there is no reason to want to know if it keeps well in a refrigerator after it is mixed... but I am sure it probably does keep well.
Should I shake the vial after I mix it?
No, from experience with growth hormone I never shake the vials, and it
dissolves anyways... Roll it around gently, let the water run over the
sides of the vial, and the stopper, tip it around, roll it around,
but don't shake it... it will dissolve without a problem. EPO doesn't
dissolve as quickly as growth hormone, but it dissolves in a short while.
How high should I get my hematocrit? At what point is it dangerous?
According to the charts that I have put up here, 45% hematocrit is AVERAGE and 5% of the population has 49% or above; and about 1% of the population has about 53%, or 54%. So 54% is probably the highest known safe limit. In cities at very high altitudes, such as La Paz, Bolivia, or some towns in the Himalayas, the population has hematocrit of about 60%, with no ill effects, so this is probably safe too, but don't try to find out which is the highest safe hematocrit... I always want to stay below 55%.
My hematocrit is 53% right now, and I am fine right where it is. I have read that Bicycle Federations disqualify a bicycle racer for their own safety if their hematocrit is above 50% (or if hemoglobin is 17% or higher...) But that also has a safety margin built in, because hematocrit will rise during the race as the bicycle racer loses water.
Hello Ellis, my hct.level has gone up since 11/15/03.@ 43% to 45.3% currently.
I have one last 4000 iu. injection today and will try to test again in two weeks time. do you think it will still rise even though I will not inject anymore for a week or two?
It will rise, but you may not get the answer on the lab blood test, because you can EXPECT only a 1/3% rise from one vial so it is possible that the error margin on a lab test would not show it. Maybe you would even show a drop, for example, 45.0% on the next test, due to lab error... but... hematocrit in fact rises, and stays with you for several months... The important thing is that you are going in the right direction.
Interpret your blood test as "going in the right dirrection, about average hematocrit, in a very safe range" and don't put too much importance on the exact number... MORE IMPORTANT is: DO YOU FEEL BETTER ? DO YOU GET LESS TIRED THAN BEFORE ?
how can I get my hct. level up faster or is it best to let it rise up slowly?
Don't be in a hurry... Each 4000 iu dose will put your hematocrit up a
small increment, and it will stay there, for example, 120 days... so after 120 days you would go down that little amount, and not all that you went up with all the shots together... So if you go UP slowly, you will go DOWN slowly too,
in the future.
I have found that, in fact, my hematocrit stays up a lot longer than 120 days. I THINK the reason has to do with the fact that I keep my glucose levels always VERY LOW, or even RELATIVELY VERY LOW, compared to the population on which they probably obtained the statistics that says that hematocrit stays up 120 days. Those might have been sick people, many of them are diabetics, and others are end stage kidney disease patients...
So maybe it stays up 120 days on them, but much longer on me since I maintain my glucose levels strictly below 120, and maybe 98% of the time in the range 70 to 105. My MAINTENANCE DOSE is one vial every 4 or 5 weeks, and with that I have stayed at between 52% and 54% since the year 2002.
So... I RECOMMEND you should test your blood glucose before and after every meal, and if it is above 105, try to think of which part of your meal was responsible for putting up your glucose, and AT LEAST YOU LEARN which food items are not so innocent, and so this might influence you to eat less of them in the future or not eat them at all...
Write to me if you have other questions, and I will be happy to help you, but
put "EPO" somewhere on the Subject line.
I am afraid our correspondence can be read by others, and I don't want anybody to know I am sick...
Please write to me to
etoussier(at)hushmail.com
And please write to me FROM a Hushmail account, which you can get free (or pro...) at www.hushmail.com Hushmail to Hushmail is very well encrypted, and so our correspondence will be confidential. I don't want anybody to read our correspondence either, except YOU and ME. As Bill Clinton found out, the internet is not private.
How do mega vitamins fit in with HGH, EPO, Testosterone, and insulin.?
How does Little Leagues Baseball fit in with Major League Baseball?
That is how vitamins fit in with HGH and EPO and Testosterone and Insulin...
They are in the same wavelength, but hormone therapy has much greater power.
I appreciate you putting up with the many questions!!!!
Keep on asking. My "service" is not to only sell good products... it is to teach you that they even exist, and to teach you to use them correctly so you get the most benefit from them and you do not get into trouble using them. (I hope you understand this also implies you should buy through me, because you help me to help you when you buy through me. Don't buy through the least expensive source, if there is ever another one less expensive than through me, because price is not how I try to compete as the best source of supply.) - Ellis
. There are 12 vials, and since you said this was a 3-4 month supply is it safe to assume I will be using 1 vial every 8 days?
No. You have to understand how it works: EPO will cause your bones to make more red blood cells... the red blood cells will last 90 to 120 days, then they are recycled out of the body by the kidneys (I think). It takes 6 days for the new red blood cells to mature... so...
You received 12 vials... you will take three vials per week, for 4 weeks...
and your red blood cells will go up 6 days after each shot, but altogether you
will get about 4% or 5% increase in hematocrit, ie, from 42% to 46% or 47%, or from 39% to 44%, etc. Then it will remain that high for about 4 months.
Then it starts to go down, as the red blood cells are recycled out of your blood. You can maintain the high level with about half as much EPO spaced out over the next 90 days, so instead of three times per week it becomes MORE OR LESS once per week. You know where and how to do this by monitoring your blood hematocrit and/or hemoglobin levels.
Can I get my hematocrit level up faster, or is it best to let it rise up slowly?
Don't be in a hurry... Each 4000 iu dose will put your hematocrit up a
small increment, and it will stay there, for example, 120 days... so after 120 days you would go down that little amount, and not all that you went up with all the shots together... So if you go UP slowly, you will go DOWN slowly too,
in the future. But this is only my suggestion... there are kidney patients that take doses of 40,000 iu at a time, so it is not dangerous if you take 4000 iu every day, or even two doses of 4000 iu together in one shot.
I have found that, in fact, my hematocrit stays up a lot longer than 120 days. I THINK the reason has to do with the fact that I keep my glucose levels always VERY LOW, or even RELATIVELY VERY LOW, compared to the population on which they probably obtained the statistics that says that hematocrit stays up 120 days. Those might have been sick people, many of them are diabetics, and others are end stage kidney disease patients...
So maybe it stays up 120 days on them, but much longer on me since I maintain my glucose levels strictly below 120, and maybe 98% of the time in the range 70 to 105. My MAINTENANCE DOSE is one vial every 4 or 5 weeks, and with
that I have stayed at between 52% and 54% for 3 years.
So... to find out how you are handling glucose, I RECOMMEND you should test your blood glucose before and after every meal, and if it is above 105, try to think of which part of your meal was responsible for putting up your glucose... AT LEAST YOU LEARN which food items are not so innocent, and so this might influence you to eat less of them in the future or not eat them at all...
Do you think it is more effective to inject EPO intravenous (through the vein) opposed to subcutaneous, in the stomach or thighs?
The instructions say that it can be injected subcutaneously or intravenously... Some people that have sent me feedback have said that they inject subcutaneously and it gives them good results... however... they don't
inject subcutaneously and also intravenously, so they can't compare one to the
other...
In any case, 12 vials raises hematocrit about 4% or 5% in them.
I inject intravenously, because I have somebody who helps me to inject it,
because it isn't easy to inject yourself intravenously in the arm, using only one other arm and hand... when that person is not around and it is time for me to inject my 1 vial per month, I inject it subcutaneously and it gives me good results as far as I can tell.
The REASON I inject intravenously is because that is how doctors inject
their kidney patients... I figure the kidney itself sends EPO out into the
blood stream, so... if I can have it injected intravenously I feel it is probably "better"... but "better than what"? All we really care about is results, and both ways apparently raise hematocrit about the same amount for the same dose.
I "suppose" you might get more "bang for the buck" but that would mean that it raises hematocrit more one way than the other, and 12 vials only raised me about 5% when I took EPO for the first time too... so
If so, how much more effective?
Injecting intravenously gave me about the same results as persons who use the same dose subcutaneously, so it is "par for the course"... not better and not worse.
Write to me if you have other questions, and I will be happy to help you, but
put "EPO" somewhere on the Subject line.
I am very interested in EPO because my blood pressure has always been low which means I produce less blood than the normal person (or so I have read on the internet). How will I know how much to take and how often? Where do I get this? Can you provide it?
I suppose I am the world's biggest expert on the use of EPO for good health, also, because I am the one who started to use EPO for good health, and not for disease, or for sport, or for anything else except just to be well. I still have not heard of any anti aging doctor or endocrinologist who uses it himself or prescribes it to his patients just to stay well. I don't mean to "brag"... I earn nothing from bragging... I just think that I am light years ahead of doctors because doctors don't use or prescribe EPO just for good health...
So... learn from me. If I was a doctor, I might not prescribe EPO either, because there is too much chance that they would take away my license to practice if I would prescribe EPO for anything except the accepted reasons, which is for extreme kidney malfunction, and after chemotherapy when they have destroyed the patient's blood, and before major surgery, etc. ... they know how to use it for near-death, but not for persons who are healthy and want to stay in optimum health for many more years.
So, I am glad to say I am not, officially, a doctor... But I learned from doctors... I am my own doctor... and I am my only patient. So nobody can take away my license to practice because I don't have a license... so I can learn, and I only teach what I do on myself. I never prescribe anything, but I can direct you to good doctors who I know are competent (because many doctors are not competent to advise you about EPO or other hormones) to get a prescription, and you can learn from me, if you want to.
I will teach you anything you want to know about taking EPO, if I know the answer... and your question you ask above is easy to answer: You will monitor your hematocrit and your blood pressure, and you will make sure it is within safe ranges... or else you won't take EPO. (I have never heard of anybody who monitors and understands hematocrit, that has raised it to dangerous levels by accident.)
That makes sense, doesn't it?
- Ellis
I am very interested in setting up regular consulting sessions with you. How could we get started? I would rather use the doctors you know and possibly include mine.
Of course. Use your doctors. I can work with you and also with your doctors, if they don't tell you that I am crazy.
I am also interested in flying to you for 3 days. Can you give me an idea of what would be included in that and what the advantage would be?
I can fly to you, or you can come to me... If you fly to me, I dedicate my day to you alone and I charge you $1000 per day to teach you everything I can. We can get A LOT done in ONE DAY... or two, if you want...
That includes all I know about using hormones, all that I know about keeping blood glucose near 83 mg/dl, blood tests, visits to my doctors if you want hyperbaric oxygen, EDTA chelation, Botox, Thermage... visits to pharmacies... I will teach you to use a glucose meter to decide which food is correct for you... and 2 years unlimited phone consultations after you meet with me. I will also give you a special "partner" discount on products you buy from me, which will pay for your trip and fees several times.
That means, whatever I sell to you in the future will always have a real and better cost than what I would charge otherwise. You will recover your "tuition" to consult with me by the discounts and the money you will save when you buy the products that you need from me.
See my page, Consult with Ellis Toussier, for more details of what I can teach you, how much it costs, and what you get for it.
I have a question -- can't the RIGHT kind of carbs make a huge difference? I mean the right carbs can keep your blood sugar levels below 130 even after eating, right? I'm talking about beans mostly. I'm trying to lose weight by eating good carbs, mostly beans. I monitor my blood sugar. I try to stay under 130 even after eating.
Doesn't this make sense?
I have bad news for you... "According to Saint Ellis" if you don't get your average glucose levels much further down, starting NOW, you can write your will because you will be dead in about 40 or 50 years. Maybe that doesn't seem so bad, but it is "terrible" according to me... I am only 63 years old, and I don't want to die as a young man, at age 100 or 110...
I suggest you spend the best $97 you will ever spend in your life and consult one hour with me by telephone. I don't advertise that I will give $97 consultations, but I give them when I know I can save your life and your health. You don't have to pay it until after the call, and you don't have to pay it if you don't think what you learn from me will improve your health and extend your life.
My phone... 011 5255 5280 3644... call me anytime, and if I can't answer then, I will tell you when to call again. - Ellis
P.S. "Saint Ellis" (we just happen to have the same name...) is some guy who lives in Mexico who says things that he can't prove, and which some doctors think are crazy... "According to Saint Ellis" these ideas can be very good for your health, but even if they are mistaken they can't be bad for your health. One such idea is "keep your blood glucose under strict control, by hook or by crook." and then he follows that with a table that doctors think is much too strict, but I know it isn't, because I can get my glucose to optimal levels very easily.
According to Saint Ellis, this is the correct interpretation of blood glucose levels:
Prepare yourself for a mind blowing read... read in this order:
