The following instructions are correct for Saizen 4 iu and Humatrope 4 iu.
They are very similar for Norditropin 12 iu, Saizen 15 iu, Saizen 24 iu, Humatrope 15 iu, Serostim 16 iu, and Serostim 18 iu. with the only diffence being the quantity of diluyent used.
First... you should use 29 or 30 or 31 gauge insulin-type syringes to inject yourself, and 3 c.c. or 5 c.c. syringes to make the mix. You can also use
28 gauge syringes, but the NEEDLE IS THICKER, so it SCARES YOU LESS if you
use a 31 gauge syringe.
TO MIX water and powder, you usually use a large syringe, 3 c.c. or 5 c.c. (don't worry about the big thick needle... you only use it to mix, you will not inject it into yourself.)
Note: 3 c.c. might also be called 3 ml. They are almost the same thing in the metric system (1 cubic centimeter of water = 1 milliliter of water = 1 gram of water) If they refer to water, they ARE the same thing.
In general, the amount of water that you use to mix will affect the concentration of the growth hormone in the solution, but not the number
of units of growth hormone that are in that vial. The growth hormone is
in the vial with the white powder, and no matter how much diluyent you mix
with it, you always have that much growth hormone. I think it is a good
idea to be able to inject 2 iu's with one .50 c.c. syringe, so I suggest
that a good concentration is .25 c.c. per iu, (but it can be .20 or .10 or
even .05) which you can do as follows:
For Saizen 4 iu, or Humatrope 4 iu, use 1 c.c. of diluyent water to mix.
On the Saizen 4 iu or Saizen 10 iu, put the blue dot on the glass vial with water facing towards you, then snap the "head" off by pushing backwards.
Mix with an amount that is easily divisible by the number of iu's that you have in the vial. So... if you have 4 iu, mix with 1.00 ml and each iu is .25... If you have 15 iu, mix with 1.50 or 3.00 and each iu is .10 or .20... If
your vial has 18 iu, use 1.80 ml and each iu is .10. You could even use .90 and each iu is .05 It does not matter how concentrated is the solution, 1 iu is the amount in which one third of one milligram is dissolved.
(NOTE: 1 mg. of powder GH = 3 iu, by convention, with all brands) The diluyent does not have to be bacteriostatic water since you will use the vial up very soon, probably in less than 72 hours. Even if the box says that you should use it in less than 24 hours, you can in fact use it for up to 14 days if you keep it in a refrigerator after it has been reconstituted. In this case, each iu is one fourth of 1 c.c. or .25 c.c. or 25 little lines on the scale of an insulin type syringe.
For Norditropin 12 iu, Humatrope 15 iu, Saizen 15 iu, or Serostim 18 iu you can use 12 x .10 (1.20 ml) or 15 x .10 (1.50 ml) or 18 x .10 (1.80 ml), so that each 1 iu will be .10 on the syringe... Use the bacteriostatic water which comes with the product, or buy bac water separately. This, for example, would allow up to 5 iu's to be used in a .50 ml short needle 31 gauge syringe.
Or you might want each iu to be .05 c.c. so you would use .90 ml for an 18 iu vial of Serostim, or 1.20 ml for a 24 iu vial of Saizen... etc.
For whatever reasons, you somehow lose a fraction of the total, so you can increase the amounts stated by 1 or 2 little lines (.01 c.c.), or don't worry about it. You are always using up the full amount of powdered GH, and I will show you below how to get the last drop out of the vial.
Many people mix Serostim with 3 c.c. of bacteriostatic water instead of the sterile saline solution it comes with, which is meant to be injected in one dose. If you use bac water instead of sterile solution, Serostim is identical in every way to Saizen. It will easily last for 30 days, maybe longer, in a refrigerator.
(Serostim is made in the same batch, at the same time, and with the same cells as Saizen. Then they are packaged separately and branded differently with a different set of instructions for different purposes.)
Bacteriostatic water prevents germs or microbes from developing inside the vial. This prevents them from EATING the growth hormone. This is why you are supposed to keep the reconstituted solution in refrigeration, or eventually it loses potency (maybe 30 days or more). However, it is unlikely that bacteria will ever get into the vial if you keep the vial stopper clean, and if you only use sterile and new syringes. This is what you will do, so in fact it will keep very well for much longer than 30 days, even if it is not kept in refrigeration...
This brings up an important point. It is not true that growth hormone must be kept under refrigeration or it will spoil. Growth hormone in your body is fine at 97 degrees. Dr. Elmer Cranton, who is one of the biggest authorities on growth hormone, has written:
"Undiluted, freeze-dried HGH powder in sterile vials may be safely kept at room temperature, not to exceed 86 degrees Fahrenheit, for up to 18 months (as dated on each vial). Up to 110 degrees for a day or two before mixing may be tolerated without a problem. Once diluent is added, however, the resulting liquid HGH must be kept refrigerated and used within 4 weeks or potency will slowly decline." - Dr. Elmer Cranton
A separate vial of diluyent is provided for each vial of growth hormone at no additional cost. One vial contains a dry, white powder which is the growth hormone. The diluyent is a clear, colorless fluid, which looks like water.
Mixing Instructions:
Before the vials are first used, they will have a plastic cap over the top of the rubber stopper. Snap off the plastic cap and you find a rubber stopper. In the center is a smaller circle through which the needle is inserted. Keep the rubber stopper clean and sterile. Before each use, carefully wipe the area where the needle goes with an alcohol swab on both the diluent and HGH vials. Then do not allow anything to touch those sterile areas except the sterile needle.
Saizen 4 iu comes with a glass ampule of saline solution... There is a blue dot on the ampule, which should face towards you... snap the
"head" backwards and it will break off cleanly at the "neck." The glass ampule is designed so the top will snap off cleanly, but in case it does splinter the pieces will be large so there is no possibility that the glass can harm you, or accidentally be sucked into the syringe.
How much of the saline do you suggest adding to Humatrope?
I suggest you use a figure that is easily divided by 15, because there are 15 iu in Humatrope... if you would have Serostim, which is 18 iu, then you would use a figure that is easily divided by 18... or if you would use Saizen 4 iu then you would use a figure easily divided by 4...
So... for Humatrope... you can use either .75 ml of bac water or 1.50 ml of
bac water... then your solution is either .05 = 1 iu or .10 = 1 iu You could
also use the entire bottle of 5.0 ml, but then you would be injecting a whole
lot of water into your body for no good reason... what for?
But if you would use 5.0 ml, then each 1 iu is 5.00 divided by 15, which is .3333 so each .3333 ml = 1 iu
Why would you concentrate it so that .05 = 1 iu and not .10 = 1 iu?... For
example, the dose for children to grow taller might be 8 iu, so you would need
either .40 ml or .80 ml. But the best syringe is a tiny syringe 31 gauge
short needle which is only .50 ml... so .80 won't FIT into this best syringe...
So the more concentrated solution .05 = 1 iu is better, because you can
inject up to 10 iu using the best syringe, which you can't do if you would
dilute it with more water.
Why would you want to use .10 instead of .05 ? I dunno. That is what I
use, and I have become accustomed to it. Also, the little tiny bit that is left in the vial or in the syringe at the end, contains LESS growth hormone if the solution is .10 =1 iu than if it is more concentrated .05 = 1 iu
I don't take into account the little bit that is lost, it is so little and in any case my dose is what goes into my body, not what is lost... what is lost, is as if it doesn't exist for me... what I can use is what goes into me... and both .05 and .10 = 1 iu give me the same practical results...
How do I get into this ampule?
Put the blue dot on the ampule facing towards you... then ... press back against the "head" of the ampule, and it will snap off around the "neck"...
To add diluyent, use a 5 ml or 3 ml syringe, or even a 1 ml syringe. Suck it up from the vial with water and transfer it to the vial with powder.
Before removing the plastic guard from the needle, twist it clockwise to insure that the needle is screwed tightly onto the syringe. Pull back the plunger to draw air into the syringe. Then insert the needle through the center of the stopper into the diluent vial. Push the plunger so that all the air goes into the vial. Then hold the vial upside down, with the syringe and needle pointing upwards.
Pull the plunger back until slightly more than 1 ml (for 4 iu) or 3 ml (for 12 or 15 iu.) of saline is in the syringe. Any air will rise to the top. Move the plunger in and out slightly until all air is out of the syringe. Adjust the plunger so that 1.02 or 3.2 (three and two-tenths) ml of diluent remains in the syringe. Graduations in ml and fractions of ml are clearly marked on the barrel of each syringe.
Slowly inject diluyent into the HGH vial as follows: hold the HGH vial stopper-side-up and point the needle of the syringe downward. Insert the needle through the very center of the HGH vial, but angle the tip of the needle toward the glass wall. Slowly push in the plunger, releasing the diluent against the vial wall onto the HGH powder. You can tilt the vial slightly to help the diluent run down the inside wall of the vial. Inject diluent slowly, so that it trickles down the wall onto the HGH powder at the bottom. Do not inject forcefully, as the HGH will foam if agitated. Foam will stick to the inside of the vial, causing loss of HGH. For the same reason, do not shake the HGH vial during or after mixing. Instead, slowly roll or rotate the HGH solution until dissolved.
This will result in a concentration of 1-unit of HGH in each 0.25 ml of solution of 4 iu or 0.20 ml of solution for 15 iu.
The diluent vial may be discarded with any remaining water, as a new one will accompany each HGH vial.
After the HGH is fully dissolved, keep it refrigerated. Do not allow it to freeze. If out of the refrigerator for a few hours when traveling, after the diluent has been added, try to keep it cooler than 80 degrees Fahrenheit. Do not allow the HGH solution to get hot. DO NOT SHAKE the vial, as the solution will foam, causing some to stick to the glass walls of the vial, making it impossible to extract the entire amount.
It may be more convenient to transfer all of the HGH from the multidose vial to individual syringes immediately after mixing with diluent. Each syringe will contain one dose. Then keep the loaded syringes in the refrigerator. The HGH solution for injection is stable for up to 24 hours at room temperature (not over 80 degrees Fahrenheit) and for up to four weeks if constantly refrigerated. Potency is lost more rapidly if not refrigerated.
If used within 4 weeks and stored properly, full potency is assured.
A small insulated bag, or simply a paper bag, with frozen gel bags can be used to store your vial of HGH during travel. When you arrive at your destination, you will surely find a refrigerator somewhere to store the Growth Hormone, and refreeze the gel bags. Remember not to store growth hormone in the freezer, store it in the refrigerator.
Ellis, How do I use the HGH that I purchase from you?
This is a strange question, because I don't recognize your name
or that you have ever purchased from me.
But I will answer anyways... I don't just want to sell HGH. I
want you to use it correctly. So I teach you to use it correctly,
starting from the blood tests and interpretation of the results,
and advice about how to mix and prepare it, and I help you to find
a good dose for you so you will not have any problem or side effect,
and if you do (which you won't) I will show you how to reverse the
side effects, etc.
And I will also teach you how growth hormone fits in into the big
picture with all the other good anti-aging hormones that I use myself,
which are testosterone, insulin, EPO, melatonin, and DHEA. That I
know of, no other person or doctor on planet earth teaches how to
use insulin or EPO for anti-aging, and these are extremely good
hormones to learn about.
I also teach you other anti aging therapies that can help you to
reach whatever objective you have, for example to stay young and healthy for
longer, or to run faster and jump further, or to grow taller, or to write a good book or play a better game of chess.
Is growth hormone a "Fat Burner"?
Not exactly... it doesn't "burn" fat like other fat burners do, which RAISE YOUR BODY TEMPERATURE... Growth hormone makes you lose fat because it improves the way your body uses fat, and how your body metabolizes the food you eat.
Can I take growth hormone together with other fat burners?
Growth hormone is a natural hormone of the human body, and injectable growth hormone is an exact copy of human growth hormone which we have in our body. In principle, injectable growth hormone will not have any clash with any fat burner or other medication which you take, although the fat burner or the medicine that you take might itself be bad for you. So what you should really ask is if you can take a particular medicine or fat burner... if it is good for you, it will be good for you even if you take growth hormone, and if it is bad for you, it will be bad for you even if you do or do not take growth hormone.
What results can I expect from taking growth hormone?
The results will depend on the dose and frequency with which you take
growth hormone, and also on what can be fixed in your body. So... growth
hormone will make you lose fat and gain muscle, but if you have 2% fat, it will be very difficult to notice any fat loss... and growth hormone will tighten your skin and soften wrinkles, but if you are very young and have very nice skin and no wrinkles, it would be very difficult to notice an improvement in your skin.
However... in general, growth hormone will REPAIR your body... thus, you can expect injuries to heal... you can expect your immune system to be very strong so you will not get many colds, or other illnesses... you can expect your hair and nails to grow faster... you can expect to feel more energy... you can expect to feel more optimistic and positive, and less depressed... and you can expect to sleep better and look "younger".
How soon will I see and feel all these results?
You will begin to feel them sooner than you will begin to see them... Some people "feel" more energy and feel better the first day... others take a few days to feel better... but if your dose is adequate and you take growth hormone with enough frequency, you will probably know it is working by the end of the first week...
After about two or three weeks, you might notice a small improvement when you look at yourself in the mirror. And you will see more and more good results steadily for about the first SIX MONTHS, after which you will stay well but you won't improve as dramatically as you did the first six months. Your friends will probably tell you that "you look good" after about 2 months..
Is it true that I will "grow younger"?
Well.... it is a mixed bag. You won't actually "grow younger" but you might feel younger, and you won't reverse every sign of aging, but you will reverse some signs of aging. That is, if you have less fat and more muscle, you look more like you did before. If you have more energy, you feel better as you did before... You didn't actually "grow younger" but you slowed down or temporarily reversed other signs of aging....
You might LOOK and FEEL younger, but your birth certificate will definitely grow older... If you also eat correctly and also do exercise, you will probably lose body fat and gain muscle, which is more like your body composition a few years back... And your circulatory system will work better, which is more like it was a few years back... So your skin will be less dry and less wrinkled, which is more like it was a few years back... You might have more sex drive and libido, like it was a few years ago... And you will feel younger because you will feel more energy, like you did when you were younger.
But other signs of aging might continue to advance, such as hair on your head might fall off or it might continue to get gray or white... your teeth might continue to get yellow or fall out... your cheeks and facial skin might sag more and more... your ears might continue to grow, which makes you appear older... Collagen under your skin continues to grow old and dry, so your skin "looks" older... etc.
But these are minor signs of aging, and you can also "reverse" them with make-up or with medical procedures... For example you can dye grey hair... You can get hair transplants, you can have your teeth whitened, you can have teeth implanted. And you can get skin treatments which rejuvenate the underlying collagen. And Botox can make your face look younger, or medical treatments such as Fraxell or Thermage can make skin tighten and fat melt off.
Will growth hormone allow us to live longer?
The fact is that WE DON'T KNOW if growth hormone alone will extend or shorten our lifespan. I am guessing that it contributes with other good habits to extend my lifespan, but I don't know it for sure because nobody has ever taken growth hormone for 60 or 70 or 100 years. So we can't know it yet...
But I have taken growth hormone every day since June, 1998 and I feel very healthy at age 63, and I think growth hormone contributed to this good result.
But I don't only take growth hormone... and I try to eat correctly and I also try to do exercise. So I can't be sure what growth hormone alone could have done for me. It is a part of a package of things that I think might extend my life, but if they don't extend my lifespan, in any case they have extended my healthspan.
Some doctors say I will die younger because I used growth hormone, and other doctors say I might live longer, so I definitely don't listen to any doctor as if he is infallible. I think THE PACKAGE of what I am doing will extend my life because I have not gotten a cold in ten years, and I think I have to get a cold before I die... but I don't know it for sure... I'll tell you 30 or 40 years from today, when I am 90 or 100 years "old" if I am still alive then.
Nobody has ever taken growth hormone for 40 or 60 or 70 or 100 years because it didn't even exist until 1985 and it wasn't used in adults until the early 1990's... It could be that we will live the same lifespan, but in better physical shape... that would be fine with me...
Or it could be that we live a longer life and also have better health...
That would be even better "fine" with me, too!
And if I live a shorter lifespan, I am almost at expected 73 years of age anyways... so it won't shorten my life very much because in the year 2008 I am already 63 years old. And I am glad I have lived 63 years in very good mental and physical health, so I wouldn't change anything that I have done if I could go back in time.
Can I take growth hormone if I am nursing, or pregnant?
I think you can, but if I was a doctor, I would never prescribe HGH to you if you would be pregnant or nursing... I think growth hormone might even be very GOOD for a mother, or for a small baby... but there have been no studies made with growth hormone on mothers or on their unborn babies... And I would not want to experiment on my own wife or unborn child. So in this case I would take an old-fashioned decision : NO, you should not take growth hormone if you are nursing or pregnant, because it might affect the unborn child... although you could give small children growth hormone, I would not give it to an unborn child, or to the mother, because PERHAPS it would be bad...
On the other hand, it might be GOOD for the unborn child... for example, IT MIGHT help the child's BRAIN and neurological system to develop better, so the child might be a fast learner. But there is time after the child is born to try that, if you would want to try that. I have noticed that little children who take growth hormone to GROW TALLER then also become extremely intelligent. It might be related or it might be a coincidence, I don't know, but I think it is related.
Can growth hormone change the odds of a 42 year old woman from having a baby with Down's Syndrome?
Wow! Now you are asking me the $64,000 dollar question. YES! I DEFINITELY DO THINK GROWTH HORMONE BEFORE CONCEPTION MIGHT LOWER the PROBABILITY of a mature woman from having a baby with Down's Syndrome... but I repeat, she would have to take growth hormone several months or a year BEFORE the baby is conceived, so that A HEALTHY OVULE is formed.
The REASON I think this MIGHT be true is because Down's Syndrome occurs in direct proportion as a factor of AGE... that is: the probability of a baby with Down's Syndrome goes UP with age... so if growth hormone REVERSES some signs of aging, one of these signs MIGHT BE that the ovule that a mature woman develops will NOT have a congenital defect to begin with, so the defect is avoided.
This is only a hunch and only "according to Ellis"... I have never heard that any doctor has ever recommended growth hormone to mature women who want to have a baby in order to lessen the risk of a baby with Down's Syndrome... but most doctors really don't have a lot of imagination, and I do...
If I had been a doctor, I would have recommended a little growth hormone replacement to all women who want to have a baby, regardless of age... if I had been a doctor... But I am not a doctor... So I can't say I have known any woman that I prescribed HGH to, so that she would lessen the probability of having a baby with Down's Syndrome.. But I know that my hunches about the effects of growth hormone are almost always right, and this one is probably right.
In any case, a woman has NOTHING TO LOSE by using growth hormone BEFORE she conceives a child, because there are NO SIDE EFFECTS from using a physiological dose of growth hormone, and she will feel better and look better, anyways. No downside, only benefits.
So it might work, but it can't harm you to try it... So if you are going to have a baby anyways, why not try it?
Would you please send me information on the gauge of needle and the
best place to inject?
You can use "BD Ultrafine II" .50 ml, 5/15" 31 gauge "short needle"... you can also use 29 gauge, and 30 gauge normal needle any brand insulin type syringes, and also 3/10 cc instead of 1/2 cc but in my opinion the B D brand syringe is "a miracle"...
You can buy syringes at http://www.hocks.com/
item number 4724266 BD Ultrafine II, 1/2 cc, 31 gauge, short needle
or item number 4724282 BD Ultrafine II, 3/10 cc., 31 gauge, short needle
Which is the best place to inject?
The best place to inject is into the fat in any place on your body that does not have much sensitivity. One such place is in the stomach near the belly button... another place is the buttocks, or fat on a leg, etc... any place that has little sensitivity is o.k.
Is there a best time to inject HGH?
The best time to inject HGH is when glucose levels are low... and that occurs in the morning, before breakfast because our last meal was perhaps 10 or 12 hours ago. But you can take it any time that glucose levels are low, so it can be three hours after eating, any time during the day, or night.
Shouldn't we take growth hormone before sleep at night, to imitate the natural release of growth hormone during "deep sleep"?
"According to Ellis" It is entirely a myth that HGH is released during "deep sleep"... Release of HGH has NOTHING TO DO with "deep sleep"... it is a coincidence that when glucose levels are the lowest in the day, probably about 4:00 or 5:00 o'clock in the morning, is also when we happen to be fast asleep.
But if you would not sleep, your body would still release growth hormone when glucose levels are low.
What side effects might I get from using growth hormone, and how can I avoid these side effects, or reverse them if I can?
There are NO MAJOR SIDE EFFECTS if you do not overdose... and it is very difficult to overdose. But... there are some minor side effects, usually in the first month of using growth hormone: You might feel a bit of pressure in your wrists or ankles... this might be accompanied by a feeling of numbness (it never happened to me, so I am saying what has been described to me)... in any case, lower whatever dose you are taking by one half, and this will disappear.
Blood pressure might also rise a little bit. This is because growth hormone causes your body to retain more water, and that additional water is now in the same hyrdraulic system. This is actually a good thing, because our body loses water as we grow older, so it is good that we reverse this sign of aging... however, until our body has time to build more capillaries and circulatory system (which is one of the extraordinary benefits for using growth hormone) this means more water in the same circulatory system.
This slight increase in blood pressure is not a serious problem for most people, but it might be a problem for somebody with high blood pressure. So: if you have high blood pressure, your starting dose of growth hormone has to be very low ie, one half iu per day, or perhaps even less, and it should be that low dose for as long as it takes to build some circulatory system.
In the long run (six months, or one year ???) growth hormone will LOWER blood pressure, so this is a long term benefit for those who have high blood pressure, but they have to survive to get to that point, so the dose has to be very low (1/2 iu. per day, or even less...) until they get to that ideal state, then they might consider increasing the dose to 1 iu per day.
What about cancer? What if we have a small cancerous tumor which has not been detected and growth hormone causes it to grow out of control?
You have been listening to the nay-sayers of growth hormone too much. Growth hormone does not cause cancer, in fact it probably reduces the incidence of cancer. I have used HGH every day for nearly 10 years and I have not even gotten a bad cold in 10 years, so I am not going to worry about getting cancer until I first get a bad cold...
But, to answer your question: It makes no sense to take growth hormone to live healthy for longer, and then die of cancer, even if growth hormone did not cause the cancer. It is easy to detect a small cancerous tumor with blood tests, and it makes a lot of sense for men to take a P.S.A. ("prostate specific antigen") test every year, which might detect a growing tumor several YEARS before it is a cancerous tumor that is out of control. The equivalent test for women will detect the most common cancer in women which is breast cancer or cancer of the uterus, it is called the CA-125 test.
There is another blood test called the A.M.A.S. ("anti-malignin antigen in serum") blood test which will detect a tumor anywhere in the body and once knowing this doctors can find the tumor with magnetic resonance imaging ("M.R.I."). If I would have cancer, I would insist on taking growth hormone, either because I think it will help my immune system to combat the cancer, or because I want to feel well or better for the short while that I am still alive.
But this is a personal decision, and I am not a doctor, so don't do what I would do only because I would do it. You should take your own decision yourself, with your doctors if you want to... but there are doctors and there are doctors, and most of them are totally ignorant about growth hormone. They hear the word "growth" and they imagine that it causes everything to grow out of control.
Cancer has not been a problem with hundreds of thousands of persons who have taken growth hormone for many years, since 1991, and the contrary seems to be true. In 10 years and literally thousands of feedback from doctors and also patients, I have never heard that anybody got cancer from using growth hormone. Since at least a few should have been expected to get cancer in that period of time, I think growth hormone helped to prevent that we should get cancer.
I have had the case of somebody who thinks he got cancer from using growth hormone... but this person had not used growth hormone for six years when he discovered cancer... so I say that he got cancer precisely because his body is HGH deficient and he did not use growth hormone for six years.
I realize HGH is a naturally occurring hormone. However my major concerns before embarking on this are two-fold. 1. Risk of diabetes which I have read several times on th web in relation to rHGH injecting.
Is there any way to mitigate this risk in terms of my diet?
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First of all, I want to mention that there are two types of diabetes... Diabetes Type 1 is an auto-immune disease, and it is not caused by Growth hormone.
So we are talking about diabetes type 2. "According to Ellis" there is zero risk of growth hormone causing diabetes type 2. Everything you read about this on the internet is written by ignorant doctors who don't know what they are saying, but they say it anyways... Diabetes type 2 is not caused by growth hormone. The cause of diabetes type 2 is incorrect eating and raising blood glucose levels very high over 30 or 40 or 50 years of your life...
In any case, there is a general risk of diabetes, so learn to eat correctly: avoid sugar, cereals, sweets, bread, potatoes, rice, spaghetti and all pasta, and eat fruits with moderation. SEE MY PAGE:
http://www.rajeun.net/carbotherm.html The Carbohydrate Thermometer
I am concerned that the pituitary gland eventually reacts by reducing or ceasing altogether to naturally produce HGH, leaving me in a position where I am dependent on the injections.
More baloney by more ignorant doctors who must say what they think might be true, even when they don't know it is true. After age 15, certainly by age 25, and even worse at age 35 or 50, your pituitary is not releasing very much growth hormone anyways, and your body is greatly deficient of growth hormone. And as you get older your pituitary will release even less until it doesn't count. When you inject growth hormone, in the long run it seems to also rejuvenate the pituitary gland itself.
I think my pituitary is releasing HGH a little better than before I began to use HGH. But to show it I had to stop using HGH for 30 days... At the end of 30 days, my IGF-1 was as high as a healthy young athletes, and I was 54 years old at the time. I don't intend to stop again to prove anything to anybody anymore (because I harm my body when I stop taking growth hormone) but this is what I found the one time I stopped for 30 days:
Read my page:
http://www.rajeun.net/day30.html Day 30 My Pituitary Lives
Which is the best dosage?
The best dosage FOR WHAT?
To grow taller, the best dose depends on the AGE of the child... I don't want to give details here in this answer because I do not want to train children to take HGH on their own... but the dose for children depends on their age: the YOUNGER they are, the LESS dose they need...
And THE YOUNGER THEY ARE, THE MORE EFFECTIVE one iu will be to make them grow taller. I have seen a child 18 months old literally shoot up three inches with a dose that would not have done much in the same child 12 years later...
To run faster or jump further, perhaps 3 or 4 iu... but I am not sure what
dose a serious athlete might use, if they use it.
But if I was an athlete, I would not be a Competitive Athlete because it is forbidden for competitive athletes to use HGH... I would refuse to stop using HGH because I refuse to lose NEURONS in my body because of a VERY BAD rule that says I have to allow my body to become unhealthy "naturally".
So I prefer not to compete and stay healthy, than to compete and break the rules or else allow my body to become unhealthy when I know HOW I can avoid the loss of neurons. I can't sit and watch my body deteriorate if I know I can stop the deterioration, and I give no athletic federation the right to tell me how I should I take care of my body, when I know I can take care of it better than they can.
To just "stay well," you can stay well with 1 iu or with 1.5 iu or with 2.0 iu or with 3.0 iu... I even know persons who use 1/2 iu. or even 1/4 iu. per day, and they say they "feel better"... Of course they feel better: SOMETHING is better than ZERO... 1/2 iu is more than one billion times more than ZERO for your growth hormone starved body.
NOBODY KNOWS which is the OPTIMUM DOSE, even if they are a doctor and speak with great authority... But we DO know which doses are BAD for us... That is, with a dose of about 10 iu PER DAY, or 15 iu PER DAY for about 5 months or more, IN THE LONG RUN you first get CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME, then if you have carpal tunnel syndrome and you CONTINUE to take that high dose, then you get ACROMEGALIA ("giantism").
But you cannot get Acromegalia ACCIDENTALLY... it is a PLANNED and CONSCIOUS DECISION TO OVERDOSE... SOME PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK AS BIG AS ARNOLD SCHWARTZENNEGER, so they purposely overdose. What is a side effect and ACROMEGALIA to me, they think LOOKS GREAT, so it is not a bad side effect to them.
And... 15 iu or 18 iu for a month or two is a dose that is RECOMMENDED to make cartilage grow for people who have lost cartilage on their knee caps or hip bones. And 15 or 18 iu for a few months is so good for the IMMUNE SYSTEM that persons who are HIV+ are healthier than ever.
So your dose depends on many things: your budget, to begin with. And also
your height, your weight, your age, and WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH by taking growth hormone? If your doctor has experience, he will tell you how much to start with. If he doesn't have experience, he can ask me and I will be glad to answer him. (Believe it or not, many doctors consult with me... and I am not a doctor... but I have more experience with HGH than most doctors do.)
What happens if I stop taking HGH after a period of time? Are there any side affects, or quick aging, or anything as a result of stopping the treatments?
No, this is not like sunlight hitting Dracula... you will not crumble and turn to dust and fall apart. You will not start to age "quickly" but you will continue to age "normally" from that point on... which means that you will be 1 year older every 365 days... and of course you will eventually lose the benefits of HGH.
There are no side effects from taking a physiological dose of HGH, and there
are no side effects caused by having taken it and then stopping to take HGH...
I have taken HGH every single day since June, 1998 and my dose is twice as much as the starting dose that most doctors recommend... My IGF-1 level has been about 550 for all these years, and I have had fantastic results. I have not had any bad side effect at all... I have not even gotten a BAD COLD in all these years.
So I am not worried that my internal organs will grow too large, and I'm not worried about getting cancer or a heart attack, or carpal tunnel syndrome, or acromegalia, or any of the horrible side effects you might read some doctors say we might get, because I haven't seen it happen to anybody in 10 years...
The sad thing is that the doctors who say these things about growth hormone say it as if they are an authority, and they aren't. Doctors who speak against growth hormone don't take it themself, and they don't prescribe it to their patients. So in fact they know much less about growth hormone than the doctors who actually take HGH themself and prescribe it to their patients. But they both get equal time to say their opinions on "60 Minutes"...
I might get diabetes someday, but that would be entirely independent of having taken growth hormone. I am not diabetic today as I write this, in 2008, but I did not eat as I should have eaten until age 56, when I changed my eating habits drastically when I bought a glucose meter. Had I known before what I know today, I would be even further away from diabetes.
But even so, at age nearly 63 and with a family history of diabetes, and nine years after taking a dose that many doctors would say is "dangerous" and seven years after taking insulin to control my blood glucose levels, which doctors said would cause me to become diabetic, I am still young and I am really as good as new in every way, or better than new. In my opinion, in my eyes, I truly think I look better at age 63 than I did at age 52. I expect someday I will look older than age 52, but in the meantime I have enjoyed 10 more years of youth.
How much would Bill Gates pay to be 10 years younger? Or how much would Donald Trump (b. 1946) pay to be 45 again, when he is 61? It actually costs much less than they would probably be willing to pay... but they don't know it exists, or they don't believe it, or they think it is very dangerous and risky... so they don't ask for it... so they don't get it... so they "age gracefully."
I don't want to "age gracefully"... I want to stay young, gracefully. And that is what I have done.
Question: The bottles of Serostim are very small and after I reconstitute and draw out an injection I always get a drop or more coming out at the top thru the needle hole. How do I stop this?
There is too much pressure inside the vial... suck some air out of it, with a syringe, and that will take care of this problem. The next time... when you put IN 1.80 ml of diluyent, also take OUT 1.80 ml of air after you have injected the diluyent IN.
For how long will the unopened bottles stay potent for use?
The expiration date of most products that I have in stock right now is about 12 to 18 months into the future... and I have used Humatrope which for one reason or another is expired, several YEARS after the expiration date...
So... at least a year after expiration, it is still completely good.
Also... I know you might have heard the contrary, but it really is not necessary that Growth Hormone has to be kept in refrigeration until it is mixed... That doesn't mean you should keep it in a very hot place like the trunk of your car in summer... But you can keep it anywhere that is a pleasant
room temperature... Remember it is probably cooler at normal room temperature than in your body...
also... DO NOT KEEP IT IN A FREEZER... keep it anywhere that it is cool... anywhere where cotton candy would not melt is cool enough...
I am now on my doctor's recommendation doing 1.25 iu's per day every day. Do you think I should perhaps only inject 5 or 6 times per week, to give my pituitary gland a chance to produce?
God Rested on the Seventh Day... But your pituitary gland doesn't need to
rest any day. Nor is there anything special about 7 days in the week, a week
could have been 10 days, 3 weeks per month, and then you would ask if you should take it 8 days and rest 2 days...
Your pituitary produces regardless of whether or not you take HGH. But the amount that is released goes down with age, perhaps because the pituitary gets more "beat up"... But as you take HGH, "according to Ellis" the pituitary itself gets repaired, so it will release a little bit better than if you do not take HGH. So in time, your IGF-1 GOES UP, with the same dose. After nearly 10
years, my IGF-1 is about 600 with 2 iu, which is perhaps 200 points
higher than it would be with 2 iu if I was starting.
The idea that it stops producing comes from DOCTORS who think everything is THE SAME: if you inject TESTOSTERONE, we know your testicles stop producing testosterone, because there is a feedback mechanism... So some doctors with bird brains, think: if A then B, so if C then B also.
But that is a fallacy in logic. Each hormone behaves in its own particular way, and when this wavelength got started, "everybody" (except Ellis) assumed that everything is the same for all hormones. But it isn't. You get Doctor Schulz, a very famous doctor with a huge following, saying FALSE STATEMENTS like: don't inject insulin because the instant you inject insulin, you are addicted to insulin forever. (or similar words...)
That is absolutely mistaken, and mistaken absolutely. I have injected insulin 14,000 times in 7 years, and if I don't inject insulin, my pancreas will secrete the insulin necessary to bring down blood glucose in less than 2 hours, which is proof positive that my pancreas is still in relatively good shape, in spite of Dr. Schultz and it doesn't matter how many DIPLOMAS he has on his wall, he is mistaken... but he is a DOCTOR so he says it anyways. And he says it with the authority of a doctor, as if he knows it is true. So many people are then misled to believe insulin is a very dangerous hormone.
Read my pages:
Day 30, My Pituitary Lives!
The 35 minute Blood Glucose Roller Coaster Ride
Bottom line: if you inject 5 days, you get benefit of HGH for 5 days... if you inject 6 days, you get the benefit of HGH for 6 days... if you inject every day, you get the benefit of HGH every day. You can't save money by not injecting a few days, you just don't spend money on those days, but you also don't get the benefit of HGH.
What is an "iu" and how does it relate to "mg"?
An iu is "international unit"... it is the unit that is used to refer to the dose. One mg. is 3 iu, of any brand, and each 1 iu is supposed to be the amount of HGH that a young man produces... but nobody has told me WHICH young man... so in fact it isn't what they say it is, but it is a starting point, and it is like saying "one quart" or "one meter"... etc.
So... Humatrope contains 5.0 mgs, which is 15 iu; and Serostim contains 6 mgs. which is 18 iu. This means that Serostim has 18 "doses" of 1 iu and Humatrope has 15 "doses" but in fact MY DOSE is 2 iu, and has been 2 iu every day since shortly after I started, in June 1998... many years ago...
NOBODY KNOWS which is the OPTIMUM dose... we only know which are the BAD DOSES... the bad doses are the doses that will cause side effects. I know that 15 or 18 iu per day, everyday for several months will cause cartilage to grow... which is a good thing, if you want cartilage to grow, and some people want cartilage to grow... it also is the dose that people who are HIV+ take to strengthen their immune system to the point that nobody knows how long somebody who is HIV+ can live, because their immune system is so strong now that they are in better health now than when they were not HIV+ (eg, Magic Johnson, etc.)
But you probably don't want your cartilage to grow, and you don't need
to strengthen your immune system more than mine (I have not gotten a bad cold since June 1998...) So... stick to 1 or 2 or 3 iu
How can I test to see if the HGH you send me is fake or real?
I am not insulted by your question, although maybe I could be... but the internet is full of frauds, so I am not insulted. But you can be sure that everything I send you is authentic because "it comes from Ellis".
However, if it does not come from me, you can check as follows:
Almost all fake HGH is in fact HCG (human corionic gonadotropin) which is
a relatively cheap hormone that causes men to produce more testosterone... so they get a "kick" and if they don't know what it is supposed to feel like, they might be fooled to think it was HGH.
So first: LOOK at the HGH. If it looks like the top of a Dairy Queen vanilla ice cream (soft ice cream that comes out of a machine in swirls) then it is FAKE HGH. On sight it is fake, but you can prove it with a pregnancy test kit. Put a drop of the dissolved suspected product on the pregancy test, and if it tests "pregnant" then it is proof that it is HCG and not HGH.
But if it is not HCG, then you still have not proven that it is authentic
HGH, because it might be something else. So here is a test that I call "The Mirror Test". Find a very OLD MAN (age 75 or more) in relatively good health, whose face is FULL OF WRINKLES... He should not have had Botox recently, or plastic surgery. Take pictures of his face, and ask him to look at himself carefully in the mirror, and you look at his face carefully also...
Then... Give him 4 iu in one dose... ONE HOUR LATER he will have fewer wrinkles on his face. And he will FEEL very good, too. If this happens, then
you KNOW it isn't water, and it isn't fake HGH. If it still does not happen,
then send the sample to be analyzed in a laboratory. If it came from me and
it is fake, I will refund your money and I will pay for the lab test too.
Are the syringes and the needles reusable if sterilized professionally?
No, they should be used only once. You can load the syringe with several doses, and inject it into yourself several times, but you cannot load the syringe with growth hormone after you have injected it into yourself, because you will contaminate the growth hormone in the sterile vial. There are some syringes where you can dispose of the needles only, but I recommend the syringes where the needle is attached to the syringe. For growth hormone I recommend .50 ml, 31 gauge, "short needle" B D brand, which you can buy at www.hocks.com for about $30 per 100 syringes.
item number 4724266 BD Ultrafine II, 1/2 cc, 31 gauge, short needle
or item number 4724282 BD Ultrafine II, 3/10 cc., 31 gauge, short needle
>I have 1 ml 28 gauge insulin syringes. Can I get by with these for
my HGH order? Are they close enough?
Yes, you can GET BY with these, but 29 gauge or 30 gauge or 31 gauge are
each successively more... "modern"... that is to say, the needle is so
tiny and so thin that it doesn't "SCARE" you as much... Next time, try to
get the 31 gauge syringes at www.hocks.com but for now, since you have them,
28 gauge syringes are fine...
If I'm going to do 2iu/day, why do I use a .50ml syringe?
I think you are a bit confused about what is an "iu" and what the
"50 ml" on the syringe means... it does not mean it is a 50 iu syringe!
An "iu" is just a measure of growth hormone, a standard that a committee
decided would be a good dose of HGH. I take a dose of twice that amount,
which means I take 2 iu per day.
The syringe goes from 0 to 50 but that is not 50 iu... that is a measure of the volume of solution that fits in there...
And the solution depends on how you mix HGH powder with diluyent... and how much you decide to concentrate the solution.
So the 2 iu that you want to use refers to the amount of HGH that you are taking, and the 50 ml syringe is what you will take it with because it fits in that syringe without a problem.
You have 6 mgs. of HGH powder, which you will mix with 1.80 ml of diluyent... so each 1 iu will be .10 ml in volume, so if you want to take 2 iu, you will use a .50 ml syringe, but you only will fill it to number 20... or you can fill it to number 40, and you have two doses... you can inject yourself twice with it (once today from 40 to 20... then keep the syringe covered in a refrigerator, and use it again tomorrow from 20 to 0...)
I was using .4 mg of Humatrope. How much Siazen should I inject for the same effect? Thanks
When you say you were injecting .4 mgs of Humatrope, I hesitate to answer
because you might have figured it wrong. The answer is that if you were using .4 mgs of Humatrope, the you should inject .4 mgs of Saizen also, because .4 mgs of one should be exactly the same potency of the other... HGH weighs the same, made by one company or the other, so the potency of the same amount of HGH should be the same, and they are tested so that 1 iu of one means the same from one company or another.
But... Make sure you were doing this, or else tell me what you were doing so that I can figure out if you weren't really injecting .4 mgs If you were :
Mixing with 5 cc of water, and you have 5 mgs or 15 iu. then .4 mgs means you were getting 12 and one half doses from each vial, so you were filling to number 40 on the syringe. (500 divided by 12.5 = 40 )
Mixing with 3.0 cc of water, you have 5 mgs or 15 iu. then .4 mg means you were getting 12 and one half doses form each vial, so you were filling to number 24. (300 divided by 12.5= 40)
In the meantime... Saizen, fill with the all the water in the vial... it contains 1.0 ml of water and 4 iu of HGH, so each 1 iu is = .25 mg of water, or to number 25 on the syringe. If you get a whole number of doses with no fractions left over it can only be: 100 (4 iu), or 50 (2 iu), or 33 (1.33 iu), or 25 (1.0 iu) One and a half iu would be 25 x 1.5 = 37.5
Since there are 4 iu in the vial, you are left with a smaller dose after 2 doses, so you would have two doses of 1.5 iu and one dose of 1 iu. There is nothng "wrong" with that, it just isn't a steady dose, but that's fine, if you are getting the results you want, and I think you probably are because it is probably the same as three doses of 1.33 iu...
A friend freaked out today and said that she has a friend who was a
professional in the anti-aging arena and was on HGH and now she's a complete
mess. Lost all her hair, boils on her skin, depressed, hiding out in Vegas not working...attributes it all to the HGH! My friend wouldn't let me contact her...I'm thinking she might have mixed one too many potions? Any thoughts or horror stories like this one with women?
After using HGH every day since June 1998, and after answering 10,000 posts on Rejuvenation, I have never heard a horror story like this. I have read
articles by people who do not take growth hormone and who want the ones who do
take growth hormone to stop taking it say horrors about HGH... but I don't believe anything I read unless it is from somebody telling me their own experience and I can ask them questions.
You can't believe a story by a person with the "boils on her skin" (out of the question, this does not happen to people who take injectible HGH...) if you cannot interview that person to ask for more details. "Depressed and loss of hair" are secondary side effects that do not happen, it is the contrary of what really does happen...
So if you can't ask questions to whoever wrote this, then don't listen to it at all. It is misinformation, like a virus that is spread maliciously.
Also, there are products that are NOT injectible HGH that SAY they are HGH... "spray HGH" and "powder HGH" and "homeopathic HGH" etc... and then people who take those products which are NOT injectible growth hormone will get bad results will write and say "growth hormone" does not work, or "growth hormone" caused their problems. It was not injectible growth hormone. It was a product that is not growth hormone, but calls itself growth hormone. ONLY INJECTIBLE GROWTH HORMONE IS AUTHENTIC GROWTH HORMONE... period.
At what age can I start to take growth hormone?
I used to be very, very conservative on this, because I did not want to cause any harm with bad advice to young people, and doctors were saying that growth hormone replacement should only be done on children, for growth, and on growth hormone deficient adults to replace a little of the lost growth hormone...
But then one day my brain lit up... I suddenly understood that the
basic foundation of good health is the nervous system... I understood that
if we lose neurons, we then lose muscle because it atrophys... and then where the muscle atrophys, it is replaced by fat... This process is more or less irreversible, ie, once we lose the fast twitch neurons with which we are born, we lose the speed and strength of youth.
For this reason, I have now changed my opinion. Now I think that growth hormone and other hormones that are lost with age should be replaced starting as young as age 20 to avoid the loss of the fast twitch neurons that are the first to go... of course I recommend that you should do this under the supervision of a doctor... but finding a doctor who will go against the current, the mass of medical opinion that says that growth hormone should not be given to young people... is going to be difficult.
Once the fast twitch muscles are lost, a world champion boxer or a world champion athlete slows down, and is forced to retire... This happens at different ages, in different sports. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN WINNING SPORTS, but I am interested in not losing neurons, and maintaining top health. Every person, even those who are NOT athletes, also slows down with age... and this is due to the loss of neurons, which is partly due to high glucose levels in the blood, the drop in hormones, and the lack of oxygen, and the contraction of the circulatory system...
If I knew when I was 20 what I know today, (and if these hormones had been available then) I would have started to take GROWTH HORMONE; and TESTOSTERON; and Erithropoyetin (EPO); and DHEA; and MELATONIN; and INSULIN; as necessary and monitored with blood tests, of course. And I would have taken care of my DIET to make sure that I do not raise glucose levels; and I would do aerobic AND weight lifting exercise, because both are important; and I might have taken hyperbaric oxygen therapy and EDTA chelation, starting since I was 20 years old.
Unfortunately, I am nearly 63 years old now, and I have already lost some speed and strength, compared to when I was 20 years old. Fortunately, I began to replace various hormones since I was 53 years old, and I have not lost any speed and strength compared to when I was 53 years old... on the contrary, I am better physically at age 63 than I was at age 53. Fortunately, too, I learned to control my glucose levels before I became a full blown diabetic (I consider myself to be a "Future Diabetic") and lost more of my nervous system at high speed... and I have not lost as much muscle and speed as I would have lost if I had waited until now to begin...
So... I EXPECT that I will be in PRETTY GOOD SHAPE 20 years from now compared to other persons my age, if I can in fact prevent the loss of most of my nervous system and muscular system. It seems possible to me that I will lose my nervous system more slowly, perhaps MUCH MORE slowly, than others who are not trying to prevent the loss.
Your price guide is not detailed. Don't forget I am not up on all the lingo 2iu 5iu.
O.k. I will explain it more clearly... Each "unit" is like a pre-set amount, that some committee decided is a good place to start... In theory, it is what a healthy young man's pituitary releases in one day... but nobody has told me WHICH young man, or what is his exact age... and a healthy 18 year old athlete might release 4 or 5 times as much HGH as a healthy 25 or 30 year old
who is not an athlete... So, just think of "one iu" as a starting point,
and I take two of them every day.
My daily dose is two units, which has worked well to keep me healthy and young... but maybe three iu would have been better, or maybe one iu would have given me just as good results... I don't know, and nobody really knows, because I can't know now what I didn't do.
The dose that an athlete might take to improve his body so that he runs faster or lifts more weight, or that a kid has to take to grow taller is more than I take...so a kid takes more growth hormone than I do, because I am not growing taller I am only trying to stay "well"...
One unit of HGH costs about $15 for most good brands in the U.S. or Europe, and I can deliver to you top of the line quality to you for $10 per unit... each vial contains a certain number of units, which is abbreviated "i.u." This means "international unit" because it is used all over the world, and it is common to all brands of growth hormone, so we are all speaking the same language.
Why are growth hormone, testosterone, and EPO banned for athletes?
Now you are asking me a question that I can't answer, because it is like an Alice-In-Wonderland upside-down-world nightmare, or a Kafka or George Orwell science fiction story... where GOOD is BAD, and BAD is GOOD.
Growth hormone and testosterone and EPO are forbidden for athletes because they are GOOD for your body... not because they are BAD, but because they are GOOD... but you can smoke, or you can drink alcohol, and that is not banned or against the rules of athletics.
And then... since the International Olympic Committee calls growth hormone and other good hormones "drugs", then POLITICIANS who don't understand the health benefits that growth hormone or testosterone do for our body then pass laws to make growth hormone and testosterone and EPO very difficult to get.
And then athletes cannot get supervision from DOCTORS, because the doctor can lose his license, so athletes have to learn in the STREETs, or in GYMNASIUMS... Which is why some of them then get into trouble.
There is too much emphasis put on WINNING FIRST PLACE, in my opinion, and too little emphasis on what is really important: winning first place for yourself... Keep your body and mind as healthy as you can for as long as possible.
You are allowed to put the best additives and oils and high premium gasoline in your car, and you can change the ball bearings when they get old, but you are not allowed to do the same for your body, if you can do it... which today you can, for the first time in history.
Why? I dunno. Maybe because the East Germans and the Soviets swept the field when they used testosterone in the Olympics, before the others learned to do it... And the ones who decided the rules were neither East German or Soviets. So they banned testosterone then, and they have perpetuated the myth that these hormones are DRUGS, which they are not: they are HORMONES.
Testosterone is the MALE HORMONE, and I happen to be a male, and I am not an athlete, and I am an old man who wants my body to be young for as many years as I can keep it young. So I certainly use testosterone... I know it is great for my body and mind if I use it correctly, which is the only way I use it.
The fact is that these hormones, in the right dose at the right time, will help you to keep your NEURONS well for longer... And there is nothing wrong in MY MIND that you should want to prevent the loss of neurons in your body.
Anything that is abused is BAD... including too much water, or too much food... But it would be a healthier world if everybody would be allowed to go to a doctor to learn to take care of their body with the right dose at the right moment, as I have learned from doctors and through the internet how to to do for my body.
Which hormones do YOU use, and why?
The question is too broad for me to answer here, but in short: I replace four of the five of what I call "The Big Five" hormones which are: growth hormone, testosterone, EPO, and insulin. Thyroid is also one of the Big Five, but I don't replace it, because I don't need thyroid. My "dose" is zero... it is a concious decision not to use it because my dose is zero.
And I also take "The Little Two" hormones which are: melatonin and DHEA. I don't replace thyroid, which would be in the Big leagues too, if I would need to replace it.
The reason WHY I use them, obviously, is because they are good for my health. I am an old man who likes to stay young and healthy in body and mind... And I am doing it very well, thanks in paart to the hormones I use.
What is the difference between the "Big Four" that you use?
Quickly: Growth hormone is like sending a car to the shop to get everything fixed and repaired...
EPO raises red blood cells, which carry oxygen... so it is like using rocket fuel instead of regular gasoline...
Testosterone is the male hormone and it increases muscle strength, among many other important things... so it is like changing a 200 HP engine for a 350 HP engine... (and then helping to make new little cars!)
And insulin is like greasing the car and changing the oil... it prevents the circulatory system from getting clogged up and damaged with HIGH SUGAR.
The health of your circulatory system affects EVERYTHING in your body...
every single cell, every neuron... every bone and muscle... in your body has to receive blood, or else it dies.
For how long should I take growth hormone?
For how long do you want to stay healthy?
I have taken growth hormone every day since June, 1998 and I intend to take it every day for the rest of my life, or until I no longer want to stay alive and healthy... which I hope will never happen, but it might.
Why is growth hormone so expensive?
Price has gone DOWN about 50% in the U.S.A. since I began to use growth hormone in 1998. Whatever the price, growth hormone is CHEAP considering the benefits it has for your health. Until 1985, growth hormone was not even available except for children. You couldn't even buy a month supply for a million dollars.
I have taken 2 iu EVERY DAY for nearly TEN YEARS, which has cost me about what a new car would have cost me... But a new car is not as valuable to me as having a young and healthy body. Growth hormone (and all my program, but especially growth hormone...) has extended my health and my youth by at least 10 or 15 years.
So in 2008 my birth certificate is 63 years old, but my body looks like it is about 48 years old... and I feel just as young as I have always felt...
How much would you pay if you could jump into a swimming pool and come out 10 years younger? Cleopatra would have been happy to pay an arm and a leg... of her slave... if she could have gotten the results I have gotten... In fact, she DID pay the testicles of her slaves, trying to find the Fountain of Youth... but she never found it... It was in their pituitary glands!
Do you break from the cycle? .
I take each hormone according to the dose and at the time and how that hormone should be or can be taken.
I don't "cycle" growth hormone. I take growth hormone once a day, every day. I take testosterone perhaps once every week or two weeks or month... I take EPO enough to keep my red blood cells between 52% and 54%... and I take insulin as many times as necessary and in the exact dose that is necessary to keep my blood glucose in optimum range.
Some hormones are taken once every month, some are taken several times each day. I do not do all my 8 point program every day, I only do what I have to do, when I have to do it. I do not take a break from my program in general, ie, I think about it every day, even several times a day in the case of insulin... and I try to do what I have to do, when I have to do it, every day.
I want to break all records as the oldest living man in superlative good health, someday. That is what I want to do. It doesn't matter if I actually do it, or if I don't achieve this goal... What matters is that this is the goal I have set for me: to be in superlative good health TODAY. (I am only trying to stay in superlative good health today for my own sake, I don't really care if I break any record in Guinness Book of World Records... but I will, if somebody is watching...)
This is what I am trying to do, and so I do what I have to do in order to do it... and I don't do what I shouldn't do, almost always. I go in the right direction: even if I don't eat perfectly well all the time, I make an effort not to eat perfectly badly all the time, as many people do. I eat twice of what is good, and leave half of what is bad... I avoid most of the bad (sugar) and try to eat correctly (low carb, high protein and vegetables) And I do some exercise...
This is enough to bring good results, and that means: very good health for me, today, which is the only day that really matters... until tomorrow becomes today.
Which are the pros and cons of spray, homeopathic, pills or powders, gels, or injectible growth hormone? Which is most cost effective?
I know that the huge amount of FAKE INFORMATION on the internet concerning
growth hormone makes it difficult to see through the light... but... BELIEVE WHAT I AM SAYING: There is only ONE WAY to take growth hormone, and all the rest are false, or not as good... You can ONLY take authentic growth hormone by injection... Every other way is NOT growth hormone.
It is true that there are amino acids that will free a little bit of growth hormone from your pituitary, but you never know how much this little bit is... and the amount is so little that (as shown in blood tests) it is not equivalent to a single small dose of injectible growth hormone. If you find pages showing how some products raise IGF-1 30% or 50%, or 100%, believe what I am saying: even that is NOT ENOUGH, because they raise IGF-1 from 90 to 120, or to 150, or 70 to 130... and I want a minimum of IGF-1 of 350, and preferably 500... YOU ARE WASTING TIME, if your objective is to GROW TALLER or to REVERSE the signs of aging.
Whatever your budget, even if it is $50 per month, spend it wisely on real authentic injectible growth hormone and don't waste it on amino acids or sprays... there is nothing else like real, authentic, growth hormone!
There is no possibility of taking growth hormone by sprays, or by powders, or by gels, and "homeopathic" GH simply is not effective... Those ways are not enough to get truly good results. You MUST take growth hormone by injection, or else, you are wasting your money... And what is worse, you are losing time in the race to try to slow down the aging process.
Sites that sell powders or sprays or homeopathic GH will always tell you the benefits of authentic injectible growth hormone, but then they will scare you from taking it with reference to horrible side effects that you will never get yourself if you take a physiologic dose of GH; that it is very painful to have to inject it; and that it is very costly.
The truth is that there are no side effects at all if you take a correct dose (there are many people using 1 and 2 and 3 iu and body builders use up to 5 iu per day for long periods of time)... The tiny sub-cutaneous insulin-type syringes do not "hurt" at all... and injectible GH gives you many more benefits than the sprays and powders, so cost is relative... Growth hormone costs about as much per year as a medical insurance policy for a 50 year old man; it costs much less than one school tuition at a good private school per month; and it is far less expensive than growing old, or getting seriously ill. If you can afford to spend between $300 and $500 dollars per month for a very good dose of GH to insure your health, it will improve your health vastly, and good health has no value, ie, it is priceless. If you cannot spend $300, then spend $100. Whatever amount of growth hormone you replace in your body will make a big contribution and a positive difference in your health.
My doctor told me that Growth Hormone from Mexico is inferior quality,
and might be cadaver derived. Is this true, and how do I know what you sell is not cadaver derived?
Your doctor or your pharmacist is slandering Mexico for his own convenience, to scare you so you buy from him. There is no cadaver derived growth hormone sold anywhere in the world, and your doctor or pharmacist knows this very well.
If there would be, it would be more difficult to obtain and more expensive to make than growth hormone made in a laboratory, so it would not be a good business, and wouldn't be commercially attractive, besides being criminal because it could spread disease. Your doctor or pharmacist knows this, and is telling you a slanderous statement for his own benefit.
I only sell top quality growth hormone bought from legal sources. Humatrope is made by Eli Lilly in the United States or France, and imported into Mexico. Saizen or Serostim are made by Serono of Switzerland, in Italy, and imported into Mexico. They cost much less in Mexico, (perhaps because of doctors like your doctor...) but they are the same product that you would pay much more for in the United States or Europe and many other countries.
And whoever is telling you that growth hormone in Mexico might be cadaver derived surely knows it is not true... so now you know how scruplous that "doctor" or pharmacist is... Just for saying something which he knows is false, I would change doctor or pharmacist, if he was my doctor or pharmacist. He's lying, and he knows it.
How do I know that what you send me is not fake?
If you are worried that what I might send you is fake, you should not order through me. Always order MEDICINE from a source you trust, especially since you have to INJECT IT into yourself. You will never get fake growth hormone from a good source... and I am THE BEST source on Planet Earth.
I pride myself in being THE BEST source in the world for growth hormone, because I know it is authentic and also because I TEACH YOU to use it correctly, as you are learning from me, right now. But if you don't trust me, then please don't ask me to prove that what I send is authentic because I won't do it... I could show you invoices to show that I buy direct... but if you don't trust me, you will think they are fake.
So do yourself a favor and buy whatever you buy from a doctor or a pharmacy that you trust.
But then please don't write to me for advice. Ask your source for advice...
You have already picked my brains for free, which is unfair... don't steal my time anymore.
I am taking 1 iu growth hormone every day, but a doctor said that he is against me using growth hormone because he says it is not necessary, and there is a risk and no benefit.
I don't let anybody that is AGAINST me using growth hormone bother me... I don't listen to them, even if they are DOCTORS... Anybody who is telling us NOT to take growth hormone is NOT taking growth hormone themselves, so how could they know what they are talking about? Which is the "risk" that he says we are taking? Where is it?
It is like somebody being against sex. If they don't like it, they are welcome not to have it, but I don't listen to them if they tell me that I should not have sex... To each his own. Just let me be.
Don't be impressed with somebody just because he is "a doctor." Ask ten "doctors" about anything and you will get many directly opposite answers... so whatever a "doctor" says might be mistaken, and in this case, there are many doctors who would say growth hormone is a good thing for our health.
You have to learn whose opinion you can trust to be correct... On the topic of growth hormone, I have taken growth hormone every day for nearly 10 years... so I trust my own opinion better than a "doctor" who doesn't use and has never used growth hormone.
Will my pituitary stop producing its own growth hormone if I take injectible GH?
If you are an adult, your pituitary is already not producing very much growth hormone... and whatever little amount it is releasing is diminishing with age. Your pituitary, however, will continue to produce and release whatever it does independent of injectible growth hormone (but it might release a little more than it would have, because the pituitary itself might be benefitted from growth hormone) because there is not a feedback mechanism, as there is with testosterone... In any case, if you stop taking growth hormone, your pituitary continues releasing at least what it would have, and maybe more, without any negative effect from your having taken injectible growth hormone.
What happens to a person who takes HGH for a year then stops taking it?
Does the body pick up where it left off or are there risks involved?
There certainly are risks involved: your body starts aging again!
There are no side effects if you stop doing a good thing for your body, except you can't get the benefits of doing the good thing. Your body just loses most of the benefits after a few months or years, and will go on its merry way, aging normally. Remember, this is not A CURE, this is A TREATMENT. Stop the treatment, and you stop the benefits. That's all that happens: you stop getting the benefits and you continue to age normally.
What happens if you stop eating meat? You stop getting the benefits of eating meat, but you continue getting the benefits of eating vegetables, I suppose. That is what will happen if I stop "eating" growth hormone, because I consider growth hormone a part of my daily breakfast. I will not get the benefit of growth hormone anymore, but I will continue to get the benefit of whatever else I eat.
What dose should I use?
Take a blood test with what you have been injecting, and you would like your IGF-1 to be close to 500 but at least 350 to 500. My IGF-1 comes out 500 to 550, with 2 iu per day. I am 6'0" and I weigh 75 to 78 kilos most of the time, and I am not a body builder. If I weighed more I might use 2.5 iu or if I was trying to build my body for a contest I might use 4 or 5 iu per day.
Nobody knows the IDEAL dose. What you want is NO SIDE EFFECTs and you want
good results. Tell me your height weight and age, and what you want to do, and
I will give you my guess...
There are two ways of looking at which is the ideal dose... the first is what many doctors advise, which is: take the LEAST DOSE THAT WILL BRING YOU THE DESIRED BENEFITS... the second is what I do for myself: take the MAXIMUM DOSE THAT WILL BRING YOU THE DESIRED BENEFITS WITHOUT ANY SIDE EFFECTS IN THE LONG RUN. I go along with the second... but it is difficult to know: WHICH is the highest dose that will not cause side effects in the long run? In any case, the best dose is probably 2 or more units per day, and less than 5 units per day...
I know somebody who got carpal tunnel syndrome (pain in the wrists) with 10 iu per day, and the pains went away when he dropped the dose to 8 iu per day... So, maybe 8 iu is safe enough, but I would stay away from 8 iu until I hear more good or bad experience from bodybuilders. I have NO intention to be a brave pioneer who is burned in the name of leading the way, since there are plenty of volunteers for this position among body builders.
Will Growth Hormone help in increasing the size of a male penis and make it bigger in size?
That is a very good question... the answer is: I don't know, but I think it will make a male penis grow...
However, a better answer is: together with testosterone, I am almost certain it will make a male penis grow. My penis grew from 5" which I measured when I was in my 20's to 6" now... but I am not sure which hormone made it grow... probably each one helped a little.
Testosterone is the male hormone, and a correct dose of testosterone is very good for a male.
Do you inject every day?
Yes, I inject every day... Some doctors say you should inject 6 days and not the 7th day to let the pituitary "rest"... If it had taken 10 days to create the world according to the Bible, the week would last 10 days, and these doctors might tell us to take growth hormone for 9 days and "rest" on the 10th day... I say "God rested on the 7th day, but the pituitary doesn't rest..."
But NOBODY knows what is correct and what is mistaken, we will find out in "the long run" who is right... in the meantime... I have injected every day for nearly 10 years (since June, 1998) and I still have not gotten side effects, so if I do get side effects I will let you know.
So go ahead and divide your weekly dose by 7, and inject everyday.
I am 18 years old. I am 5' 5" tall and I weigh 130 pounds. (1.65 mts/59 kg) I eat three times per day, and I do exercise. I want to know if growth hormone can help me to grow 4 inches taller, and I would like to know how much it would cost? How long will it take to see results? Are there any side effects?
The honest answer to your question is that IT MIGHT ALREADY BE TOO LATE for you to grow taller... On the other hand, most males of your age are still growing at 18, about 1 cm. taller per year... The sure way to find out is to have your bones X-rayed, but I don't like X-rays unless they are absolutely necessary, and it isn't absolutely necessary to prove that you can grow when it doesn't hurt to find out by simply going ahead with the treatment... You have nothing to lose and everything to gain if you will TRY IT.
Read a testimonial from a boy age 18 that grew 2 inches with growth hormone, in a few months. See: http://www.hghgrowtaller.com
If you were 20 years old, I might think it is TOO LATE, but I would still try it because most males are still growing until age 25! I think you still have a lot of possibilities to grow. I have known boys 19 years old that have grown 2 inches in the first few months with growth hormone, so I REALLY THINK THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY that at 18 years of age, and maybe even at 20, you are still in time to grow taller with INJECTIBLE growth hormone. (NOTE: DON'T WASTE PRECIOUS TIME EXPERIMENTING WITH SECRETAGOGUES ! THEY WON'T GIVE YOU THE RESULTS YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.)
I don't know if you will grow 4 inches, but I DO think you will grow at least an inch or two, and maybe 3, and maybe 4 inches. I am only guessing, but I think it is a good guess that you have a 90% probability to grow at least 1 inch, 70% chance to grow 2 inches, and about a 40% chance that you will grow 4 inches. Whatever amount you grow taller, it can make a huge difference in your life, so if you were my brother I would definitely tell you: Go For It! You have NOTHING to lose because it won't harm you, and EVERYTHING to gain because you might grow. If it does not make you grow, it will still help you in other ways.
There are no side effects if you take GH correctly, which is how you will take it. I can help you with my experience and advice but of course you should be under the care of a doctor, because I am not a doctor. In any case, the most important advice I can give you is this: TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE... you cannot delay to start, since you are already close to the end of your physical growth. If you are going to try it, try it NOW... If not, then forget it, because TODAY is the best day to start... every day that passes your chance to grow taller will be less and less.
I recommend that you should start with a budget of about $1000 worth of growth hormone, and if that gives you results, then continue with more until you see that you are NOT growing taller anymore. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE except money, which is only paper... and you have EVERYTHING TO GAIN by trying it, because there are no side effects if you use it correctly, and there are plenty of good benefits, even if you do not grow as tall as you would like to.
WHAT YOU EAT is more important than how many times per day you eat. I will be glad to give you exact nutritional advice if you would like to consult with me, or else I recommend you should consult with a nutriologist close to you who is experienced and specialized in growth problems. (Most nutritionists are experienced in treating diabetes, or obesity, but I have seen that many really don't know the fine points of how food helps or hinders our growth.)
My budget is very limited. How can I get the most "bang for the buck" from ONE vial of GH per month?
This answer is the same for ANY single vial of injectible growth hormone:
Assuming your vial is 6 mgs. (18 iu) Serostim or 1.33 mgs Humatrope or Saizen... Start by mixing the powder with exactly 1.50 ml of water. Each dose will be .05 ml, so each "dose" will be one thirtieth (1/30) of the vial. If your vial is Serostim 6 mgs., it contains 18 iu, so each dose is a little more than 1/2 iu... or if it is Humatrope 5 mgs. it contains 15 iu so each dose is 1/2 iu... in any case, since you used 1.50 ml of water to mix it, and since each "dose" will be .05 ml, both the 18 iu or the 4 iu's vials will be divided into 30 equal doses.
Assuming 4 weeks of 7 days plus 2 days is one month...
With the following schedule you will use 8 "doses" per week, and will last 4 weeks. The longest you are without HGH is 48 hours (from Wednesday morning to Friday morning) and you are getting up to 1.5 iu in 24 hours, from Monday morning to Wednesday night, and Friday to Saturday. This is a lot, considering the example is only ONE VIAL of growth hormone in one month.
I give the example schedule for a vial with 5 mgs., 15 iu, where each dose is exactly 1/2 iu:
1/2 iu Monday night
1/2 iu Tuesday morning
1/2 iu Tuesday night
1/2 iu Wednesday morning
Nothing on Thursday
1/2 iu Friday morning
1/2 iu Friday night
1/2 iu Saturday morning
1/2 iu on Sunday morning
With this schedule I think you will get as much benefit as possible from any size vial.
I think this could give you the most benefit from a very limited amount of injectible growth hormone that you have budgeted.
I have gotten feedback from somebody who takes 1 iu per week to say that he has gotten the benefits that he sought, which goes to show that even an extremely small dose of HGH is infinitely better than zero, and a budget of $100 per month is certainly much better than not taking growth hormone at all... in my opinion this would surely be better spent on authentic injectible growth hormone than on $100 worth of amino acids to perhaps stimulate the release of a little bit of growth hormone.
What do you suggest for the dose to use?
15 iu of GH lasts me about 7 days because I take 2 iu per day... it might last you 7 to 15 days, depending on the dose you take. The dose you take is determined by your budget, and also by your physical results. There are no serious side effects in a healthy person using 1 or 2 or 3 iu per day, and some body builders use 5 iu per day. If you are diabetic or have heart trouble, you should start with less than 1 iu. Start with 1 iu, which is a good standard
dose to start with...
What are your desired results? Do you want to stay young and healthy, or do you want to have a big body builder type body, or do you want to win a body building contest? I want to stay young and healthy, so the dose I take is between 1 and 3 iu per day... Body builders take from 3 to 5, and to win a contest they take 8 and up to 15 iu per day, but they don't take it every day, they cycle just before a contest.
The correct way to figure out your dose is from bottom up, and experiment with the results, and take IGF-1 tests to have an idea of what you are getting... however IGF-1 tests are not reliable because you can get quite different results on the same blood from one lab to another, even from the same blood sample at the same lab. So don't depend on a blood test result, just use it to help you in your decision, if it is relevant, and ignore it if it is not.
I SUGGEST you start with 1 iu per day, and work your way up to 2 iu per day, maybe 3 iu per day, depending on your height and weight, and actual physical results and blood tests. I am not a body builder, and I don't like to recommend body building doses until I know if they might cause side effects in the long run... the side effect I like the least is that body builders start to "look" alike, like the soldiers in "Toy Soldiers" or the boxers in "Rocky"... but body builders also take a lot of testosterone, so this is not necessarily due to excessive growth hormone.
Testimonial received concerning dose:
"Oh, by the way, I have dropped about 35 lbs in three months of regular HGH injections and my back pain dropped to the point that I did not need the heavy narcotic dose I had been using. This happened when I went from 1 to 1.5 and then 2 IU's per day dosage.
There is a huge difference for me between 1.5 and 2 IU's and this is the first time in these five years I have felt as though I could use 2 per day. Had I known what it would do for me I would have tried to do it a long time ago.
Thanks again friend."
Dr. Hertoghe recommends a dose of 1/2 iu per day in his book. Why do you recommend 1 iu per day?
With all due respect to Dr. Hertoghe, his book is extremely conservative when he talks about the dose, in my opinion. That is a very low starting dose, but I can understand that a doctor would be extremely conservative in what he recommends to the public in a book not meant for other doctors, because they don't want to recommend a dose that might cause any side effects, not even to 1 person in 1000.
You won't get any side effects at 1 iu, unless you are sick or overly sensitive to growth hormone, which might be the case, so Hertoghe would be correct... I think Dr. Hertoghe might recommend 1/2 iu to the general public in his book, but 1 iu to most patients in his practice.
1/2 iu per day will "work" but it will be extremely slow, and you might not feel a great deal. There's a reason why 1 iu is called "1 iu"... that means: it is the standard dose.
In my opinion, the starting dose should be 1 iu, and the optimum dose is probably about 2.0 iu
What about the needles?
I can send syringes to you anywhere in Mexico... I don't send syringes to
the U.S., because they cause more problem being shipped than they are worth, and it is easier if you order them through http://www.hocks.com I recommend .50 cc, 30 or 31 gauge, "short needle" BD brand... if you can't get these, then get any insulin-type syringe.
Can I reuse syringes if I boil or sterilize them?
No, I don't recommend that you should sterilize disposable syringes... I don't think they are made to withstand so much heat. You can load a syringe with a double or triple dose of growth hormone (or insulin, etc.) and inject it into yourself two or three times, but you should not load more growth hormone (or insulin) into a syringe which you have already used to inject into yourself because you will contaminate the growth hormone (or insulin) which is in a sterile vial.
Which syringe shall I use, and where can I buy them?
Use a .50 or .30 ml syringe... preferably 31 gauge, otherwise 30 or 29 gauge is o.k... preferably "short needle" otherwise any needle... B D brand, or any brand where there is no wasted product. There are cheap syringes where you waste a drop of growth hormone or insulin... insulin is cheap, but the drop of growth hormone costs more than the syringe, so get the best syringe you can... I recommend B D brand (Beckton Dickinson).
You can buy them at www.hocks.com
I am a woman... what is my dose?
I am not sure that 1 iu per day on the average is your dose, but it is a
good standard dose to begin with... But later you might find that your optimum
dose is 1.5 iu per day on the average, or even more, (or maybe less... nobody
really knows how to determine the optimum dose... I have my theory and my way
of figuring it out, and doctors have theirs... and we are both probably right,
although we come to different results... that's how good HGH is...)
I recommend that women who are still menstruating should divide the total dose of their entire cycle by 28, then take half of that average on the first 12 days of her cycle... then the average dose from days 13 to 16... then take 1.5 iu dose from day 16 to 28... This means: you take the same 28 iu in 28 days, but you take a smaller dose on your "high estrogen" days, and take a higher dose on your "high progesterone" days. I put it for you here, very clearly, with 1 iu average as an example:
1/2 iu days 1 to 12 (6 iu)
1 iu days 13, 14, 15, and 16 (4 iu)
1.5 iu days 17 to 28 (18 iu)
note: I did not learn this from doctors... You will not find many doctors who agree or disagree with me on this, and I admit I am just guessing... but it is a good guess...
I once read in one of your websites you were giving a woman instructions on how to take HGH in different amounts at different times of the month, but now I can not find it in the internet.
This is only "according to Ellis".... I have not learned this from any doctor, and I have not heard any doctor tell me that it is correct, or mistaken... the
idea is: estrogen probably interferes with the action of HGH, which might be why women stop growing taller sooner than men, and why women get less results from the same dose of HGH than men... So... take your MONTHLY DOSE (28 days) and divide it by 28... that gives you a daily average dose... take HALF OF THIS DOSE from days 1 to 12... take the dose from days 13, 14, 15, and 16... and take a
dose and a half from day 17 to 28...
So... for example... your daily average is 1 iu... take 1/2 unit
from day 1 to 12... 1 unit from day 13 to 16... and 1.5 units from day 17 to 28... Your average is still 1 iu, but most of the action is when your body is low on estrogen, and high on progesterone.
The idea is to get "more bang from the buck..." you take more of
your dose when you are HIGH PROGESTERONE... progesterone is a hormone that seems to be very GOOD for women, they feel better when they are in their 5 and 6th and 7th etc. month of pregnancy, and I think they look more beautiful too...
What's my next step? How can I feel comfortable paying you before I see any product?
Find an anti aging forum that is not mine (Rejuvenation), and ask the question: "Does anybody know Ellis Toussier, in Mexico? Can I order products from him and be reasonably sure that I will receive them, and that they are authentic?" You will probably receive several answers, because I am "pretty
well known".
I'm not really sure until I speak with you what will be the amount I should take but I imagine this should get me started adequately.
If you are a "standard size" woman, about 5'6" to about 5'8" and not particularly "heavy" then 1 iu per day average, is a good starting dose, to get
your body patched up and to increase the circulatory system without any side effects. If you do have "side effects" it is usually only at the beginning and it is a good side effect, ie, you retain more water (which is a good thing, because it is reversing a sign of aging) so at the beginning with the same circulatory system you might "feel" a little strange in your hands and extremities... but this will either pass soon, or you can lower your dose (eg, 1 iu every other day instead of every day) until your body builds up the circulatory system and this adjusts naturally.
If you are bigger or smaller than "standard size", adjust what I wrote above accordingly.
After the first month, you can either stay with that dose if it is giving you all the results you want, or adjust it + or - half an iu per day, and "play it by ear."
Just remember: you probably know more about your body than your doctor knows about your body, so let your body speak to you. It is very difficult to make a mistake with growth hormone if you don't take a dose above 8 iu per day. I have not heard of side effects ocurring at 4 or 5 iu per day with body builders, so 1 or 1.5 or 2.0 or even 3.0 iu per day are all very very well known to me... It really takes a huge dose of HGH (eg., 15 iu per day) for many MONTHS before you have the truly "bad" side effects caused by overdose.
I have heard that we come to this earth with a certain amount of cells, and when they are gone they are gone... So with growth hormone speeding up cell turnover, it might use them up faster? Is there truth to that?
As we say in Mexico, every madman to his madness...
Everybody has something to say, everybody says one thing or the other. And smart alecks, like DOCTORS for example, love to say things they don't know to be true. They especially love to seem smart as if they are big authorities, and some doctors want to scare us away from taking growth hormone, so they say these things...
The fact is that is only a theory. It could be that with HGH speeding up cell turnover it uses up the cells faster...
But it might also be true that with HGH keeping everything well, cell turnover is slower...
So which one is it? I dunno.
But I do know that I am 63 years old and I have taken HGH every day since June 1998, when I was 52 years old, and in 10 years LOOKING AT MYSELF IN THE MIRROR, I look the same. I am not aging very fast at all, or I am not aging at all, maybe. In fact, I look better at age 63 than I did at age 52!
I am not unhappy to see my face in the mirror, from age 52 to age 63.
So, how many Old Men can say the same thing? How many persons in the world can say that they look JUST THE SAME OR BETTER today as they did in 1998?
So I THINK cell turnover is SLOWER with HGH than without it... but in any
case, I have not gone DOWNHILL from age 52 to age 63, and if I had to do it
all over again, there is no doubt in my mind that I would take HGH every
single day all over again, exactly as I have done.
I don't care if I will die sooner... I don't think I will die sooner, but if I do, I don't care if I do, because I have already lived 10 incredible years in a healthy and young body, when many other men who were born the same year I was (1945) are either dead or dying, or wishing they were dead. And I am still alive and very healthy. I should have been an old man already, but I am a young man still.
And I don't see why I should die just because some doctor thinks I might die, since I am healthier than ever. There are also a lot of doctors who think I will not die sooner because I took HGH... so take your pick.
To be able to take HGH is a gift that I have been given. It is an unbelievable gift that we have all been given... but it won't do anybody any good if you just read about it and don't put it into your own body... and I am very thankful and grateful that I have received this gift, that is that I was able to use growth hormone and other good hormones during my lifetime.
So I won't let Jay Olshansky and Thomas Perls and their crowd of HGH detractors convince me that I am mistaken to take HGH and other good hormones.
I have replaced all my hormones. DHEA, Melatonin, estrogen, testosterone, and progesterone. Is there any I am missing?
You are missing INSULIN, and you are missing EPO. Insulin gives me much much better blood glucose control. And EPO puts my red blood cells UP so that I have more oxygen running through my body and my brain, so I don't get tired.
Anything else you highly recommend that I should get?
Yes. I am a fanatic about keeping glucose levels under control. If you
don't have one, buy a Roche Accucheck (or Accutrend) Sensor... and buy perhaps
4 boxes of test strips, so that you will have enough to test yourself enough
times so you will learn how you react to various foods which I group together
in the Carbohydrate Thermometer (which happens to be my creation too...)
And read my page about how to interpret results of your glucose meter. My interpretation is much more strict than doctors, even more strict than diabetes specialists, which I say are too lenient. I also say I am right and they are
mistaken (typical "Ellis") (I'm very strict on this idea, for myself.)
The Glucose Theory of Aging
I am buying growth hormone and receiving it legally in Mexico, for the first time. Do I need to declare this at the border crossing? I seldom bring anything back I need to declare though I am in TJ once or twice a month....never been stopped but would rather know what is the protocol.
You can declare it and say it is yours, for you. You should have no problem if you declare it, according to what it says below. As you will read from the following, if you buy growth hormone in Mexico and take it back to the U.S.A. you are NOT required to have a prescription by an American doctor.
"A new bill was recently passed by Congress that amends a portion of the Controlled Substances Act (21USC956(a)). This amendment allows a United States resident to import up to 50 dosage units of a controlled medication without a valid prescription at an international land border. These medications must be declared upon arrival, be for your own personal use and in their original container."
Previously it said:
"New Federal ruling allows U.S. residents reentering the United States at international land borders to bring back, without a prescription, up to 50 dosage units of medications on the Drug Enforcement Agency's (DEA) controlled substances list, Schedules 2 through 5. You may bring in more than 50 units if you have a prescription written by a U.S.-licensed physician whom DEA has authorized to prescribe these medications."
U.S. Customs
What amount is "50 dosage units"?
I don't think even they know what that means... In short, if you take an amount with you that does not seem like you are planning to sell it to others, you should have no problem going through U.S. Customs. For example: 50 vials, if one vial is one dose.
I am interested in knowing the difference between the various Growth Hormone products... What is the difference between spray growth hormone, injectible growth hormone, homeopathic growth hormone, etc.?
There are not "growth hormone products" in the plural, there is only ONE
authentic growth hormone, and that is INJECTIBLE GROWTH HORMONE... To paraphrase one of the Ten Commandments: "Thou shalt not have any other growth hormone product besides me!"
What I mean to say is that there is only ONE way to take growth hormone, and that is INJECTIBLE GROWTH HORMONE. Some authentic brand names are Humatrope, Saizen, Serostim, Norditropin, Genotropin... and a few other legitimate brands, all made in laboratories by genetic engineering. In the United States, legitimate growth hormone is only sold in pharmacies with a prescription.
So... if it is being touted on the internet or on a TV infomercial as a way to get growth hormone without a prescription, without the "pain" of injecting, and "thousands of dollars less" than injectible, and to avoid "dangerous side effects such as acromegalia" etc., you can guess you are going to lose your money with all of these. Growth hormone MUST be injected, or else it will
break up before it gets to the blood stream, in which case it is not going to act as growth hormone, it will act like any protein: a piece of chicken, or steak...
Authentic injectible growth hormone is not as expensive as they say it is, it does not cause the side effects they say it will cause (because you will not overdose on it) and the sub-cutaneous insulin-syringes don't hurt at all: From 1 to 10... usually a zero (ie, nothing at all... you didn't feel anything at all)... or a 1...
In spite of anything else you might read on the internet, EVERY THING ELSE IS NOT GROWTH HORMONE. "Homeopathic growth hormone" might contain nanograms of authentic growth hormone... in a year less than what I take in a day... it is such a tiny amount as to be ineffective compared to the dose used in anti-aging, or to make children grow tall. Certainly, do not use it to try to make short children grow taller because you will waste precious time. You would have to inject more than a year to get the dose we use in a single day. And in any case, "homeopathic growth hormone" will not work if you swallow it because the growth hormone protein will break up in the stomach.
"Spray Growth Hormone" is simply ineffective, even if it might contain a little bit of recombinant injectible growth hormone in a spray, the growth hormone protein will break up and not act as growth hormone in your body.
There are powders with amino acids that do increase the release of growth hormone in your body, but these are not effective enough to give you the same benefits as injectible growth hormone, but they do work. If they are sold to you with the stipulation that it helps release growth hormone, then it is not a fraud. If it is sold to you as growth hormone, it is a fraud, because it is not and cannot be growth hormone.
Get this straight: Authentic growth hormone can ONLY be taken by injection. Period. (And it doesn't hurt!) Any other way is impossible, in the year 2004. And until you read or hear that there is finally a way to take insulin by spray or powder or pill or gel, you can be certain that growth hormone cannot be taken by spray or powder because the HGH protein is more than twice as long and complicated as insulin.
I have read that injectible growth hormone can cause acromegaly and carpal tunnel syndrome, or cancer, and that it is very dangerous.
You would have to take a dose of 4 complete vials of 4 iu injectible growth hormone for a period of about 8 months to get acromegaly ("giantism"). Since you are not going to intentionally overdose (ie, you will take a sane dose) acromegaly is totally out of the question, don't worry about it.
As for cancer... one out of three persons in the population will get cancer sometime in their life... of these, only 5% get cancer as children and 95% will get cancer AFTER age 40, the incidence rises with age.
This means that cancer is MOSTLY a disease of aging. Children have MORE growth hormone in their body than adults, so a higher amount of growth hormone in the body coincides with LESS CANCER... and this seems to be true of the thousands of people injecting growth hormone. In any case, the INCIDENCE of a new cancer is NOT HIGHER in thousands and thousands of persons who inject growth hormone, and I think in time it will be shown to be LESS.
I prefer to take my chances to take growth hormone which makes my body healthy and physiologically younger, than to let my body slowly deteriorate and degenerate with age, until it might degenerate and get cancer. I prefer to take a simple blood test to see if I am developing a cancerous tumour in my prostate, which is the single most common cancer in men, (and there are similar tests for breast cancer in women) and avoid cancer, than to stop taking growth hormone because of a fear of cancer.
A cancerous tumor anywhere in the body can be detected with 99% accuracy with two AMAS blood tests that show there is an antigen to cancer. So, if you are scared of cancer, as I agree you should be, it makes more sense to detect it at an early stage, and cure it, than not to take HGH which is good in every way for your body, because of your fear of cancer.
Carpal tunnel syndrome is a pain in the wrists... it can be caused by too much growth hormone, or from typing many hours on a keyboard, etc... If you ever notice a pain in the wrists, lower your dose of GH about 25% and take Vitamin B complex, and the pain will be reversed and the pain will probably disappear.
If I die soon, I will be THANKFUL that I have lived so well for so long, because growth hormone (and all the other hormones and anti-aging therapies I do, especially correct nutrition plus exercise) has extended my HEALTH span into my 60's. I am already nearly 63 years old, but my body is in its 40's and in some important ways even in my 30's.
I think I will not die of cancer, or of a heart attack, or of diabetes, which are the three biggest killers... and I know I have been very healthy until now, (in May, 2008, age nearly 63) which is way past what I would have expected if I had not taken growth hormone. So I have to be thankful for what I have received, and I am. That is why I tell others what I am doing, and how I am doing it.
I heard from one of my friends that his friends took the hormone and while they took it they had a small tumor and it grew larger with the hormone.
This sounds to me like what an anti-growth hormone doctor would say... but instead of telling you "what if somebody has a tumor and it grows with growth hormone?" this genius prefers to scare you from taking growth hormone by saying "I know somebody who had a tumor and it grew with HGH."
Ask him to tell you the name and telephone of the person, and I will bet
that the person does not exist, except in his imagination.
Also one of them had a cyst that was cancerous that grew while taken the hormone. Is this possible?
Another invented friend?
If a person has a cancerous tumor, would the cancerous tumor grow, or not grow, if that person eats chicken?
What is your age? Are you afraid you might have a cancerous tumor? If so, take the AMAS blood test which will find a cancerous tumor with 95% accuracy, and if you take it two times, then you can be nearly 100% certain of the accuracy.
Yes, I suppose it is POSSIBLE, because one in three persons on planet earth will get cancer at one time or another in their life... but I have never heard of HGH CAUSING a cancer in somebody who does not have cancer... and if they already have cancer, it might grow, just as it would have grown anyways, with or without HGH.
But it sounds like the kind of baloney that an anti-aging doctor or reporter would make up to give an example of a horror story that never occurred. It is just not believable, unless they give you the name and telephone number of the supposed person whose cancer grew while they took growth hormone.
What is the best way to take HGH?? Can you cycle 1 week on and 1 week
off, or is it better to take it everyday??
I have taken it nearly every day since June, 1998, which is now more than seven years ago... My friend, "Big Doc" (died of a heart attack, in 2001) had a very different program: 6 days of 3 iu ON, and 6 days of 3 iu OFF, combined with heavy exercise and a very low carb diet which he said would put him into "ketosis," which according to him would keep his IGF-1 levels high (but he never took blood tests to demonstrate this).
If you are not seeking the best "bang for the buck" as Big Doc was, but just plain good health, in my opinion it is better to keep your IGF-1 up in a constant manner... My IGF-1 fell very fast in 7 days when I stopped taking GH for 1 month (I stopped in order to take blood tests to show what happened to my pituitary gland after taking growth hormone every day for 18 months) from above 500 to 201, as shown on blood tests... So I think it is better to take a shot of growth hormone every day to keep my IGF-1 up constantly. It is like watering the plants: it is best to water them a little every day, rather than a lot a few days, and then a long dry spell.
Take it however you like, but take it long term for as long as you are getting good results.
Is it better to take 1 shot of 2 iu, or 2 shots of 1 iu each?
Either way is o.k., at these doses... if you would take 8 iu as some bodybuilders do, then I would recommend splitting the dose... I think it is easier to take 1 dose of 2 iu per day, and it gives excellent results, although perhaps two doses of 1 iu in one day is theoretically better, and might give better results... nobody really knows if 2 half doses is better than 1 full dose, or if it is the same... I know I take one full dose per day and my results are excellent, so... Why argue with success?
What will happen if I stop taking growth hormone? Will my pituitary stop producing growth hormone? Will I grow older faster?
No, your pituitary will not stop producing growth hormone because you took growth hormone, and on the contrary for a while it might even be releasing in a more youthful manner. Your pituitary is probabaly not releasing much growth hormone anyways, but it never stops producing it...
If you stop taking injectible growth hormone, you will slowly lose the benefits you gained while you took it. You cannot expect that the benefits should last forever, just as you cannot expect that you will not be thirsty forever only because you have drunk sufficient water every day of your life. When you stop taking it, you will stop receiving the benefits of GH, and you will begin to lose the benefits...
But I imagine that we will be better off than we would have been ourselves, because we have repaired some of our body while we were on taking growth hormone. I imagine that an old car that goes to a shop and gets an overall repair job is then in better shape than other old cars that did not get repaired.
But... nobody really knows, because a study to prove what happens would take many years following persons who have taken growth hormone for many years and then stopped taking it, and growth hormone has only been available to the general public since the mid 1990's, and is still used only by a very tiny fraction of the world population (less than 1 in 50,000 persons).
I went back and looked at my HGH usage. The first time I took 3 IU,
6 days, 1 day off and the second time 2 IU, 5 days, 2 days off. I do
not remember a difference although I stopped the 2 IU dose after
only about 3 months.
My IGF-1 at 3 IU of Saizen was 346 (64 - 185); at 2 IU it was 302.
Don't put too much attention to the exact figures of IGF-1... they can
vary a lot, and both of these could be 20% UP OR DOWN from the actual figure.
so...at 3 iu it was: 290 to 420 and at 2 iu it was: 240 to 360...
take your pick.
More important is your physical results... I SUPPOSE that you FELT
more energy with 2 iu and also with 3 iu. and I SUPPOSE that you looked good, your skin looked good, your hair and nails grew faster, etc.
I also suppose that if you have not taken HGH lately, that you FORGOT a lot of the physical benefits, so it is impossible to really decide which was better, or how much better.
I have taken 3/4 cc of testosterone for many years. It was 1001
the last test (260 - 1000). When I took HGH I had a problem with dihydrotesterone. It was 193 and 202. Normal is 94 (25 - 99).
HGH wouldn't affect dihydrotestosterone. I would say that if you
take testosterone, you should also take Arimidex and this would
probably keep DHT in control. Do you take Arimidex?
Right now PSA is 1.4 and when I took 3 IU of HGH it rose to 2.0.
But you are also taking testosterone, and testosterone affects
PSA... 1.4 is good, and 2.0 is good, I wouldn't worry about it.
Just keep on taking PSA tests about every 6 months or 12 months
or so, but right now don't worry about "it rose" to 2.0 It could
be just irritation or it could be you had sex or it could be many
things but it is not a significant number at 2.0... it is "o.k." and
especially because you take testosterone which puts it up a bit.
Take Arimidex.
So, I am still not sure what dose of HGH to take. I remember reading that
doctors do not recommend any dosage over 3 IU?
Doctors don't use 3 iu or more than 3 iu, and they don't prescribe more
than 3 iu so they like to comment on what they THINK is right rather
than what they KNOW is right. You should ask a body builder who has
taken 4 iu for many years, and who knows other body builders who have
taken 5 or 6 or 8 iu's for a while, and I guarantee they know much more
about what more than 3 iu will do, than doctors who don't know, but
speak as if they know.
I take 2 iu, but that is because that is what my budget allows. I get
good enough results, because I am physically well, and I am not getting
old very fast... in 9 years, I have a few more grey hairs than 9 years
ago, and THAT'S ALL. I am essentially the same, physically as I was
9 years ago, OR BETTER. I don't have more wrinkles, I am not more
tired, my sex life has not gone down... but... I use HGH, EPO, testosterone,
and Insulin... So I don't know that it is the 2 iu of HGH alone.
But... I have taken 3 iu, and occasionally 4 iu for a day or two, and I am
not sure which is the OPTIMUM DOSE of HGH if cost would be 1 penny
per iu. But... if HGH cost 1 penny per iu, I would probably take 3 iu
or 4 iu per day for a while... My opinion is that THE BEST DOSE IS THE
HIGHEST DOSE THAT DOES NOT CAUSE ANY SIDE EFFECTS IN THE
LONG RUN.
And since I know body builders who take 4 iu in the long
run, and have not complained about anything at all, and insist that 4 iu
is the LEAST effective dose for body building, I tend to believe them
much more than I do the doctors.
And it also depends WHICH DOCTOR, because there are many many doctors that also say that HGH is DANGEROUS because it might cause cancer, and it might cause Acromegalia, and it might cause the internal organs to GROW TOO LARGE... So if you ask their opinion, they will tell you that I should be dead by now, because I should have died a long time ago of cancer, and I should have died when all my internal organs burst through my chest.
So I don't worry about or even think about what doctors have to say
about growth hormone, except I listen to the doctors that take growth hormone
themselves and who prescribe it to their patients... but with a grain of salt. Sometimes I agree with them, sometimes I don't agree with them... but I never
bow to them or decide that they are doctors so they must know more than I do. They know as much as I do, or less than I do... but they think they know more than everybody because they are doctors.
I tried to determine what dose Saizen recommends. I went to their Web Site and found a formula: Hgh = 0.03mg per 1 Kg of weight per week. This
calculates to 2.45 mg of Saizen. The mg to IU conversion is: 1 IU =
2.45mg. That means I should be taking only 6.61 IU per week. The
most I ever took was 18 IU.
No, you are making a mistake. 1 mg = 3 iu, so 2.45 mg = 7.5 iu
But they have a RANGE, it is not ONLY .03 mg per kg per week.
And it depends on WHAT FOR? For persons who are HIV+, the recommended
dose is about 18 iu PER DAY. For children who want to grow taller, the
dose is 4 iu to 8 iu PER DAY. For adults, with growth hormone
deficiency it is 1 to 3 iu per day.
For Dirty Old Men Who Want to Stay YOUNG... do what I do.
And don't give more weight to what SERONO says than to what I SAY.
I have been to SERONO DE MEXICO many times, I have spoken to many
employees and specialists, and NONE OF THEM HAS EVER TAKEN ONE SINGLE
DOSE OF GROWTH HORMONE.
And I have had breakfast and met with representatives of Eli Lilly de Mexico, and they all think I am like Flash Gordon, the Man from Outer Space or something, the Bionic Man, because none of them has ever used HGH themself...
and in the U.S.A., or in Switzerland, I think it is the same...
I have visited and interviewed THE OWNER of a laboratory in Mexico who MAKES EPO... and he is about 70 years old... and HE HAS NEVER TRIED EPO HIMSELF.
He thinks it is INTERESTING that I am taking EPO myself, but HE DOESN'T DARE TO USE IT HIMSELF... and I think (ie: I KNOW) it would benefit him greatly...
So... are you going to follow HIS INSTRUCTIONS and HIS OPINIONS, or WHAT THEY COPY FROM OTHER INSTRUCTIONS AND WRITE IT ON THEIR INSTRUCTIONS,
or are you going to better believe a bicycle rider or a marathon runner...
or ME? The fact is that NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE what is BEST. We only
know for sure what is BAD. Stay away from excess doses.
The fact is that I don't believe bicycle riders, or marathon runners, or
body builders either. I believe my eyes, and my own experience, and I believe blood tests. But I learn by observing the results of bicycle riders, marathon runners, and body builders, and getting feedback from them and also doctors on my forum.
I searched the Internet for recommendations but found none. You said
BIG DOC takes 3 IU 6 days - that is what i took the first time. Who
is BIG DOC?
Big Doc was a doctor who was subscribed to my forum, who used to write a lot
of good posts. He died of a heart attack in 2001. He was a body builder and an expert on steroids. He had a gymnasium, and he was way ahead of his times... so far ahead, that the F.D.A. PUT HIM IN JAIL for making GHB in 1992, when it was still LEGAL... Read my page:
http://www.rajeun.net/bigdoc.html
I lost his photograph, unfortunately... but he was a BIG MAN, at age 68...
very strong, like Arnold Schwartzennegger type...
I have read that you are using 2 IU per day..... how many days?
Every single day for 9 years... except once, for 30 days...
I started with 1 iu, then 1.5 iu for about 1 year, then 2 iu, then 3 iu,
then I went back to 2 iu for budget reasons and also because I was getting
IGF-1 of about 720... which I felt was too far in front of the crowd, I don't
want to be the brave spaceman that later tells everybody not to do his
mistakes.... I prefer to stay in front of the crowd but with the crowd, and not make any mistakes.
Plus it is cheaper to take 2 iu per day than 3 iu per day, and I give 1 iu per day to my girlfriend, or to her grand daughter who is SHORT and has grown
about 4 inches taller than she would have... so that is 4 inches like high heels
for the rest of her life...
I changed her life with that, and I can still afford it, me 2 iu and 1 iu for my personal charities. Who else better than my girl friend, and her grand daughter (now age 4)?
http://www.rajeun.net/growtaller.html
I remember reading that you need to give your system some rest?
I take 2 iu every day, 365 days per year.
I stopped using HGH for one month, once upon a time, just to see if the
"experts" were right. They assured me that my pituitary was "fried" from using HGH for 18 months, but blood tests showed that it was in better shape than ever.
http://www.rajeun.net/day30.html
My system doesn't have to "rest"... "Rest" from WHAT?
"God Rested on the 7th Day... But My Pituitary Doesn't Rest." - Ellis Toussier
I wrote that 9 years ago on a forum of doctors, and I shocked them so much
that it caused a commotion on the forum... somebody who is from MEXICO,
who IS NOT A DOCTOR, and who is taking growth hormone WITHOUT A
PRESCRIPTION... and who dares to challenge the established way of thinking...
But some of them actually came around to think as I do, and today many
doctors do it my way, or at least accept that it is a possibility.
What is the shipping time from when you get the check? I am going to
do some more research on dosage and make decision on how much I want to take.
Shipping time is about one week.
The best research you can do is to ask your body.
HOW TO GET OUT THE LAST TINY DROP
At the end of the vial, you are always left with a tiny drop of perfectly good growth hormone, which to me seems a pity to throw away. Here is a way to get it out:
Fill a syringe with the diluyent that you are going to use on your NEXT vial of GH, but first insert it into the OLD vial of GH, wash it around, and then suck it back into the syringe. Now the tiny drop left inside the vial is very diluted GH, and most of the tiny drop of GH that was trapped in the vial is now in your syringe where it can benefit you. Use this solution to mix into the new vial.
WHERE TO INJECT I am often asked: Where should I inject?
you can inject anywhere that you have a little fat... for example, the top
of your leg, or near the belly button... poke around with the needle and find a
place that has less sensitivity... you will see there are places with more and places with less sensitivity than others...
The injection is "sub-cutaneous" which means just
under the skin, perhaps 1/4 inch below the surface... into the fat. If you use an insulin type syringe, with a half inch or 5/8" needle, inject at about a 45 degree angle to the surface of your belly. If you use the "short short" 3/8" needle, you can inject perpendicular to the surface of your belly.
It shouldn't hurt. On a scale from 1 to 10, where 1 is "I could
barely feel it" and 10 is "it hurts just a little bit" it will usually "hurt"
about a 0... or maybe a 1... Very seldom, I might see a tiny drop of blood, but this is unusual.
WHEN TO INJECT You can inject ANY TIME... before breakfast,
after breakfast, before exercise, before going to sleep... any time is a
good time. I have heard doctors recommend injecting before sleep because it
imitates the "natural" release of growth hormone which they say occurs when you are asleep... but the natural release of growth hormone probably has more to do with low glucose levels than with being "asleep"... and in any case, EVERYBODY reports excellent results, no matter what time they inject, just so long as they inject growth hormone, everyday.
In my opinion, it is not DEEP SLEEP that affects the natural release of growth hormone, it is LOW GLUCOSE LEVELS, which naturally occur in the early morning hours, (which coincides with deep sleep, but "deep sleep" is not the cause of release itself... it happens to be a coincidence.) This nonsense, that deep sleep is what releases growth hormone, has been repeated so many times that it is engraved in stone in medical books, and you will probably hear many doctors tell you that deep sleep will release growth hormone... in my opinion, it is a mistake.
TO CYCLE OR NOT TO CYCLE? Some doctors recommend taking growth hormone for 5 days or 6 days per week then off 2 days or 1 day... This, they say, is "to let the pituitary rest"... I ask myself: Rest from what?
I have taken growth hormone every single day, non-stop, 365 days per year, since June 1998, and my pituitary is in perfect shape. Maybe it is even better than when I started taking GH in June, 1998... so I see no reason to "rest". You can do it however you wish, but I like the idea of taking my weekly dose divided into 7 days rather than divided into 5 or 6 days.
WHICH IS THE IDEAL DOSE? This is really the $64,000 question. The best dose to start with, the first month, is probably 1 iu per day. Almost nobody reports any problem with this dose. But for the very few persons who feel an uncomfortable pressure on the wrist or legs, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, it is a GOOD SIGN that the growth hormone is working well! It means you are retaining a little bit more water, which is fine because, that itself, is reversing one of the Signs of Aging (loss of water). If it really bothers you a lot, drop the dose to 1/2 iu for a week then go back to 1 iu per day, just to give your body a chance to build some more circulatory system for the extra blood and water.
2 iu per day is probably a much better dose than 1 iu for most people,
and you will probably feel the difference.
3 iu per day is the most I have taken for an extended period of time, and the most I would take until body builders prove me wrong. I take 2 iu 10 months, and 3 iu two months every year. (I consult with my doctor, who approves what I do with caution... so don't do what I do without consulting with your doctor.)
I think the ideal dose is the highest dose I can take every day in the long run without ever having any side effects. It is the highest dose, not the lowest dose, because a higher dose (without side effects) is closer to what you had when you were YOUNGER.
NOBODY REALLY KNOWS what the ideal dose is.... not even doctors (doctors often speak as if they KNOW the TRUTH, but they really are only just guessing, just as I am)... and I don't want to find out what an excessive dose is on my body, for the sake of science. There are enough madmen taking much higher doses than mine, and reporting side effects... so I will let them be the guinea pigs.
4 iu per day is the dose that makes short children grow taller. By weight, this is equivalent to about 8 iu in adults... so I GUESS that 8 iu is too much because I don't want to stimulate my bones to grow!
3 iu is the highest dose that I dare take for the long term without any side effects... but I might be mistaken... It might be lower, it might be higher... I took 3 iu per day for about 6 months, and although I know several people who have taken this dose for several years, I lowered my dose to 2.0 iu recently, because my blood test showed IGF-1 = 620... Although there is no evidence that 620 is "too high," I decided it might be too high, and I get excellent results at about 500... so I dropped the dose to 2.0 iu. per day.
There are a lot of body builders taking 6 iu or 8 iu and reporting no side effects, but I still wouldn't want to take more than 4 iu everyday, until we know at what point there are side effects in the LONG RUN... and body builders cycle, so I cannot tell if their dose is safe EVERY DAY for
