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www.Pay Pal Scams.org : Don't get mad. Get even. !!!


If your Pay Pal account has been restricted, and Pay Pal has told you their decision is final and you may not appeal it... If Pay Pal has told you that they will keep your money for 180 days, at the end of which you may "request" them to please return it to you... If Pay Pal has refused to pay your purchases using the Pay Pal credit card, when you have more than sufficient funds... If Pay Pal has disrupted your legal business...

Don't get mad. Get even.

Welcome to PayPalScams.org I set up this new domaine at my expense, for the fun it will give me to get even. Join me, for the party is about to start. Pay Pal is very vulnerable, and I am going to show you how and why they are vulnerable, and together we are going to bring them down.

A quick search of the internet for "scam, PayPal" showed me that there are already thousands of complaints about Pay Pal similar to mine, so I will find support. I found AboutPayPal.org and PayPalWarning.com and other natural allies. But I wanted to set up my own page, becauseI want to get even.

I intend to unite and help organize the efforts of others like me and other websites like this one into a united plan of attack against Pay Pal from which they will never recover.

On May 10, 2002 Pay Pal restricted my account with $4805 of my money in it. They reversed a withdrawl of more than $2754 which I had sent to my bank on May 8, and they rejected several small payments that I did using my Pay Pal Mastercharge card before I knew the account had been restricted. Thus they not only disparaged my business reputation with my customers, they also disrupted my business, caused me to lose many orders, and they caused fines and charges for the bounced credit card payments which they rejected with my account having more than sufficient funds.

Pay Pal wrote to say they "suspect" illegal activities and fraud, but they did not say what this was. I am not engaged in any illegal activities, and I have not defrauded any customers ever. I have had a Pay Pal account since August, 2000, and I have received several tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in this period of time. I also have recommended perhaps 50 or more persons to get a Pay Pal account, which I now regret having done. (Has anybody received $5 bonuses lately, or is Pay Pal also stealing those small commisions?) According to Pay Pal, there were 87 different persons who sent me money, more than half of those were repeat customers (and friends), without any previous notice of suspicion of "fraud" or "illegal activities".

I still do not know for sure why they restricted my account but I think it was because a customer panicked that I was not going to deliver his products (for $195) and complained to Pay Pal one week after he placed his order. His complaint resolved itself a few days later when he received his goods, and he wrote to Pay Pal. That ended the complaint, but Pay Pal did not end the restriction of my account. They informed me that they were "investigating" and they asked me to FAX them identity documents, which was unnecessary because they already had these documents in their files. However, I FAXED them what they asked for.

That would have been bad enough. I would have forgiven them if they had decided to restrict part of my account, no more than necessary to guarantee that the customer's money would not be lost. But they restricted $4805 to "protect" $195, which is grossly unfair, and they don't explain why and they don't answer their e-mails. But nearly three weeks later they wrote me this cynical e-mail, putting no doubt that they intended to punish me for supposedly violating their User Agreement, which again they did not bother to explain.

>From: PayPal Customer Service
>Reply-To: PayPal Customer Service
>To: "Ellis J. Toussieh Bigio"
>Subject: paypal account information (KMM19896305V18309L0KM)
>Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 17:29:52 -0700
>
>Dear Ellis,
>
>Thank you for contacting PayPal. This email confirms that we have reviewed
>your faxed documentation. Your appeal is denied.
>
>In order to protect all PayPal customers and the quality of our service, we
>take violations of our User Agreement very seriously.
>
>Following an investigation, this account has been permanently closed due to
>violations of our User Agreement. This decision may not be appealed.
>
>We will hold the fund in your PayPal account for 180 days. After the 180
>days you may request for a check withdraw.
>
>If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us again.
>
>Sincerely,
>Lisa
>PayPal Account Review Department


Of course what they are doing to me and what they have done to thousands of others is a fraud. Note that they never mention how or why I broke their User Agreement, and note the dictatorial tone of "This decision may not be appealed".

It is Pay Pal's right to close my account if they want to, and return the balance of my account to me. But they do not have any right to keep my money for even one day, much less 180 days, after which they say I can "request" for them to return it! This is very clearly fraud and conversion. They have the gall to announce their intention because they feel they are untouchable, out of the reach of the Law. They feel protected by their User Agreement which says they cannot be sued, all disputes must be arbitrated.

Ha! Read on.

So if I do not "request" that they return it they will not automatically send it back to me; and even if I "request" it, they still think it will be up to them to decide if they will do me the favor to return it, or if they keep it !!!

I make it very plain right now that I will never "request" that they return my money. I DEMAND through this page that Pay Pal return my money with interest, with expenses, and with damages. I will also ask the Attorney General of the United States to demand that they return my money, and that he should prevent Pay Pal from ever doing this again to anybody else.

If they are smart, I should have my account released the first day they read this page. But they are not smart. They will pass it to their legal department, and I might get a threat to take my page down, or a perhaps a threat to sue me for libel. But there is no libel on this page. I am saying what they did and what I plan to do.

I have seen that Pay Pal likes to bully people with their lawyers. But if they do sue me, they will meet my lawyers. And I am sure the press will love it. "Pay Pal Sues www.PayPalScams.org !" At the very least it will bring attention to Pay Pal Scams, About Pay Pal, Pay Pal Warnings, Pay Pal Sucks, and other pages that I will link to. Anybody interested in investing in Pay Pal might first look on the internet and find the scams that Pay Pal has already perpetrate on thousands of innocent persons around the world.

And a scam it is. The money that Pay Pal has sequestered was not even my money. It was sent to me by a customer in Ireland. I could have told that person that her money was stuck in Pay Pal for 180 days and that it is not my fault. Instead, I sent her more than $4000 worth of merchandise which she received. (proof of this statement will be furnished to whoever wishes further proof.) Pay Pal is mistaken to think they can create "black holes" where innocent persons around the world can send money to be "restricted" at Pay Pal. Then they wish they can keep that money earning interest for them for at least 180 days, perhaps more. This is very clearly fraud !

WHAT I WILL DO NOW... A PLAN OF ATTACK

As a publicly traded company, Pay Pal is very vulnerable. I am going to show how they are so vulnerable, and how they are going to fall.

When military commanders go into combat, they first work up a plan of battle, for there are many alternative ways of attacking any military engagement.

Similarly, in Law, attorneys study thoroughly, and then develop what they call their "theory of the case". One attorney will say to a fellow lawyer in his firm, "What is your theory of this case?".

Every civil or criminal wrong can be approached, just like combat, from any one of a number of angles, and it is urgent to develop the most effective "theory of the case".

In my case, I will avoid the arbitration clause at all expense. That is part of my "theory". Arbitration is loaded in their favor, and even if I were to "win," I would lose. My goal is NOT to release my money, which I will do eventually anyways. My goal is to punish Pay Pal and to prevent them from doing this to anybody else, ever again. Arbitration would give them a clean bill to continue kicking their customers as they have done until now. ARBITRATION IS OUT.

I WANT TO REALLY PUT A BIG HURT ON THEM RIGHT AT THE OUTSET, which is why I am publishing my plan of attack on the internet, so that others can use it also. There are two separate clear goals to the strategy. I will declare I have won the war when both are accomplished. I don't care about the $4805.

THE FIRST IS TO PUT PAY PAL OUT OF BUSINESS, EVEN FOR ONE DAY. That will get their attention!

THE SECOND GOAL IS TO MAKE THE OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES OF PAY PAL HIDE. I want them not to sleep at night, because they fear they can go to jail, or because their stockholders are going to tan their hides. I might buy a stock in Pay Pal for about $30 so that I can go and speak and vote at their stockholder meetings. They will tremble to know I am going.

Or, they might have something to explain to their stock holders, about why they withheld MY money, and what they intended to do with it. This might also cause a fluctuation in their stock price. I understand they are trying to get the price of their stock UP. Once this becomes known, they might find the price of their stock points South. I am willing to lose my $30 investment in their stock, for the pleasure of speaking or voting at the stockholder's meeting. It is less than I would pay to go to a circus, and promises to be more fun.

That will also get their attention, but not as much as putting them out of business. But it will fill them with legal problems and they are going to start spending their personal money on lawyers, because they will not be able to charge their defense to Pay Pal, because they are on the stock market and I THINK they cannot charge their legal defense fees to their corporation, IF THEY ARE SUED INDIVIDUALLY FOR FRAUD and conversion, etc.

All Employees of Pay Pal are also responsible, personally, for following orders which result in a fraud, and can also be sued for fraud, personally. Even the telephone operators and the cleaning lady at Pay Pal can be sued, because they work as a team to perpetrate a fraud on the public. Most of them know very well what is going on, and the only way they can get out of it is by resigning and opposing their former employers. EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE AT PAY PAL CAN BE SUED, PERSONALLY. Even the cleaning lady will be sued, if I learn who she is. And all it takes is ONE employee to repent and start talking, and they will all fall like a deck of cards.

The first goal can be accomplished when the Attorney Generals of EVERY STATE IN THE UNITED STATES receive complaints from citizens of that state and from me. I will write to all 50 Attorney Generals. Plus, the Attorney General of the United States, and every single person in charge of a regulatory agency, such as Banking. Every stock analyst, every stock broker, will receive copies of these.

Pay Pal is breaking MANY LAWS, not only to its customers and the public in general but also, by allowing Pay Pal to be used as a form of payment on Casinos that are illegal in the United States, including money laundering for terrorists and drug trafickers. I am going to demonstrate and prove this to the appropriate U.S. Government agencies, and at the very least they will have a big headache.

I will publish on this website the name and addresses of who I will write to, and I will publish my letters, so that any other person who believes he is being scammed by Pay Pay can follow my lead. These letters should be sent by courrier (FedEx or UPS or DHL or U.S. Express Mail) AND by FAX, AND by e-mail. Persons in Foreign Countries should also complain to the Foreign Relations Secretariat of their country, with a request for them to pressure the U.S. Government to shut down this scam which affects their economies also.

The second of these goals will be accomplished when enough of us unite together to get the fiercest and best lawyer to handle the case.

I will attack - INDIVIDUALLY - the officers and directors, plus anyone who has dealt with me and whose name I can get off any of the correspondence. I will join the switchboard operator as a party defendant if I can find her name! When you hit them INDIVIDUALLY, it really hurts. When you hit only the corporation, they all point the finger of blame to someone else, and you cannot have that under any circumstances! Of course their instant defense is, "whoa, it wasn't me, it was the corporation".

There is a theory of law which is referred to as "piercing the corporate veil". When a corporation participates in fraud or willful and wanton negligence or other misconduct, courts will look for compensation "beyond the corporate veil or corporate fiction" to the officers and directors.

There is an important matter of jurisdiction. In which court do we want to file? I will attempt to get FEDERAL jurisdiction, based upon "diversity of citizenship" and the "interstate" nature of the dealings with them. Diversity of citizenship means, inter alia, that the quarrel is between people of different states, as opposed to people dealing only within the boundaries of one state. Federal Court will hurt them a LOT more!

I will demand at least a billion dollars, or perhaps ten, for "fraud" compensatory damages, for interest, lack of earnings, slander of credit, etc., and a billion or two for punitive damages for gross and culpible negligence, fraud, conversion and larceny.. . and because I am in a position to allege fraud and gross and culpible negligence, I will also demand attorneys' fees and costs.

THAT WILL GET THEIR ATTENTION!

It's a simple case, and any law school senior could win it. If the complaint is worded properly, and served properly, so that it can survive a Motion to Dismiss, they'll be begging to settle, but it won't be easily settled. They will have to reform their practices, with everybody. No more restricting accounts arbitrarily and beyond what they really need to protect the public. No more black holes where innocent persons can send money to a restricted account and the money cannot be returned, and gets restricted right along with the other. No more not answering e-mails. No more keeping their customer's money for 180 days.

But I am not sure what will happen on the criminal side, because the officers might go to jail.

And, I must pounce on the officers and directors - charging them with conspiracy, gross and culpible negligence and fraud. I don't have an arbitration clause with them. And they are the ones who will want the suit to go away. They have conspired to steal my money; they were grossly and culpibly negligent in hiring people who would steal my money, and they knew or ought to have known, with reasonable dilligence, that their employees were stealing my money.

I HAVE READ THE CONTRACT, AND I CANNOT LOSE. THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY THAT THEY CAN PREVAIL, AND THEIR LAWYERS KNOW THAT. NOBODY - NOBODY - CAN TAKE AND HOLD MONEY BELONGING TO SOMEONE ELSE. IT IS NOT THEIR MONEY. AND IT IS FRAUD FOR THEM TO ATTEMPT TO DO SO, EVEN FOR ONE DAY.

I CANNOT LOSE!

They, of course, have an arbitration clause, but that is voided in fraud cases. AND I DEFINITELY WILL AVOID ARBITRATION AT ALL COST!

I know I can threaten these people until I am blue in the face. They might laugh at the lawsuits that have been presented so far, BUT NOBODY LAUGHS AT A WELL WORDED MULTI-BILLION-DOLLAR LAW SUIT! I WILL SUE THE DIRECTORS JOINTLY - PERSONALLY - AS PARTY DEFENDANTS IN MY COMPLAINT, AND ALLEGE THEY ARE PART OF THE FRAUDULENT CONSPIRACY! AND I WILL SEND COPIES OF THE COMPLAINT TO THE BAR ASSOCIATION IN CALIFORNIA AND NEBRASKA! and press releases to every newspaper who might know them, every chamber of commerce, CNN, Wall Street Journal, MSNBC, Turner Broadcasting, every federal agency who might control them, the IRS, the FCC and any other federal agency who might be disturbed by a fraudulent internet operation.

And IMMEDIATELY I will try to revoke their license to operate. What governmental agency has jurisdiction on PayPal? The FCC, I assume? I will DEMAND their license be revoked for fraud. I will DEMAND of the Secretary of State of California that their state license be revoked for fraud and theft and conversion (stealing). Ditto their city.

I will try to get the Internet Service Provider, who handles their web site(s) to revoke their contract on the basis of fraud, etc., and kick them off the internet.

They KNOW they are screwing me and others.

They're laughing at me and screwing us at the same time.

And they think we are helpless.

And every one of Pay Pal's officers and directors either knows his employees are screwing me, or he ought to, with reasonable diligence, know his employees are screwing me, and the public in general. Qui facet per allium, facet per se. What one does through another, he does through himself. If these directors set up a corporation which tolerates confiscation of other's funds, as they have confiscated mine, the directors are guilty of stealing money!

I will eat PayPal and its directors for dinner!

I will make a career out of hurting them!

I call upon all who have also been scammed and screwed by Pay Pal to join me in fighting Pay Pal. Write to me and let us find the best and fierces lawyer. The best way to fight them is united. I for one will NOT accept the release of my account as an end to this sordid affair.

A PERSONAL MESSAGE TO PETER THIEL

Peter Thiel, Shame on you! You are personally responsible for running this scam on the internet. You are a shame to Stanford University and to the Stanford Alumni Association. Don't you dare donate a penny of the interest you are illegally earning on my money to Stanford University. I will write to Stanford University and to the Stanford Alumni Association so that they will be aware of the scam that you are running on the internet so that they will know your money is dirty money. I order you to release my money immediately, and order that all damage done and interest lost be returned to me immediately. I will write to Mr. Colin Powell at the U.S. State Department to restrict your passport so that you won't flee to another country with my money. I will write to the F.B.I. to investigate your scam, which is breaking U.S. Law and aiding Money Laundering.


The following are some of the sites I have found where you can find more bulletin boards, discussions, and hundreds more examples of Pay Pal Scams:


Pay Pal Warning.com: Read "Pay Pal Wall of Shame"

Pay Pal Not Accepted Here!


About Pay Pal.org Another great leader, with strategies and discussions of how to get your own fight started.

About Pay Pal.org


Pay Pal Scams.com Don't Get Mad. Get Even!

Don't Get Mad.  Get Even! www.PayPalScams.com!


No Pay Pal at www.PayPalSucks.com ! Read: "Pay Pal Horror Stories!"
Pay Pal Sucks.com!

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